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Final Fantasy 12 =O 66 replies

AK47 said on: 2006-12-10 01:46 pm
4388 Days, 20 Hrs, 39 Min, 32 Sec ago

ok so i decided to get it. i was a little lost as to what i was doing with the battle system and still am. just started. right now i am hunting for that tomato(lol) monster. any advice or help or anything i should know?

[Added at 12/10/2006 14:58:05 by AK47]

btw...teh t-rex killed me in one hit! -_-
Fbg said on: 2006-12-10 02:07 pm
4388 Days, 20 Hrs, 18 Min, 7 Sec ago
Ask Gemz...he was actually playing that earlier I think. lol
Scytherboom said on: 2006-12-10 03:09 pm
4388 Days, 19 Hrs, 16 Min, 22 Sec ago
Buy Libra!!! It shows you monster stats and level. That T-Rex is level 30 + any wolves he eats = +5
Beat said on: 2006-12-10 06:35 pm
4388 Days, 15 Hrs, 50 Min, 25 Sec ago
Jeany said on: 2006-12-10 07:02 pm
4388 Days, 15 Hrs, 23 Min, 56 Sec ago
Just go the the Westernsand... I just completed the the game including the hardest "optional" boss Yiazamat who has 50 million HP... it took me 8 hours to do the fight.
Sideo said on: 2006-12-10 10:15 pm
4388 Days, 12 Hrs, 10 Min, 44 Sec ago
The battle system is easy. Just read the manual.

It combines real time fighting with the old rpg fighting system.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-10 11:12 pm
4388 Days, 11 Hrs, 13 Min, 24 Sec ago took me so long to find that stupid tomato thing. '-_-

...i hate using walkthroughs; think it makes too easy but right now im kinda lost and i dont want to miss anything. it would really suck if i needed to redo everything.
*screams really loud*
Gemz said on: 2006-12-11 07:00 am
4388 Days, 3 Hrs, 25 Min, 17 Sec ago
You havent even touched the licenses have you?

cheers, and good luck.

Btw, money is actualy hard to get. Dont waste it. Buy p downs and pots!

After the runin though rescusing bosche get a healthly supply of items that reservse status effects
AK47 said on: 2006-12-11 12:28 pm
4387 Days, 21 Hrs, 57 Min, 47 Sec ago

not really gemz. dont really understand it. this game seems pretty complicated. i dunno...i guess ill figure it out after playing it. right now im suppose to use the save crystal to teleport somewhere. only like 1 hr into the game or so.
Jeany said on: 2006-12-11 02:16 pm
4387 Days, 20 Hrs, 9 Min, 42 Sec ago
I good trick to get money is to chain monsters... if you can pull off a chain of 100 of the same type of monster they will be droping much more loot.. Also the license system is easier than the sphere grid :o...and gambits once you figure them out there really is nothing to them..
AK47 said on: 2006-12-11 10:00 pm
4387 Days, 12 Hrs, 25 Min, 14 Sec ago

*rubs magic lamp*
jeany my first wish is...teach my teh ways of teh FF12! other words, what should i know and how do i go about doing it?

I HATE WALKTHROUGHS and really try hard not to use them so please dont recommend that i use one! =P
Sideo said on: 2006-12-11 10:58 pm
4387 Days, 11 Hrs, 27 Min, 5 Sec ago
Don't use a walkthrough, use the game manual. lol
AK47 said on: 2006-12-12 08:43 pm
4386 Days, 13 Hrs, 42 Min, 5 Sec ago

ok i need help. i checked a walkthrough(no im not using it to play) so i knew about any secret weapons and such. it says i SHOULDNT open certain treasure chests because it if i do i CANT get a weapon called: "Strongest Halberd". what is it and is this true?

right now i am in a sewer trying to get into the palace i believe.
Sideo said on: 2006-12-12 08:45 pm
4386 Days, 13 Hrs, 40 Min, 13 Sec ago
Don't read the a wlakthorugh. That ruins the whole point to playing a rpg.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-12 10:08 pm
4386 Days, 12 Hrs, 17 Min, 57 Sec ago

LOL sideo!

anyway, Balthier rulz!
...he just joined my party with the chick! woot woot!
Jeany said on: 2006-12-12 10:49 pm
4386 Days, 11 Hrs, 37 Min, 0 Sec ago
yeah there are a few chests you can't open but by the time I found out I had already opened some so I couldn't get the zodiac spear.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-13 05:49 am
4386 Days, 4 Hrs, 36 Min, 22 Sec ago

what is the zodiac spear? is it worth getting? if so, should i start over?

btw...they say there are chests in certain places, but i dont seem to find them. '-_-
Gemz said on: 2006-12-13 07:47 am
4386 Days, 2 Hrs, 38 Min, 55 Sec ago
Im sure i opened a few by now.

Erm, i suggest you get someone with magic/bow in your party or that bird will kick your ass.

Trust me, i had to fight him 3 times because all my guys are melee... And still are. I havent learned my lesson. Im actualy tryin to get the hp 500 sphere and putting ash though magic tree.
Jeany said on: 2006-12-13 12:20 pm
4385 Days, 22 Hrs, 5 Min, 14 Sec ago
You'll see by the time you reach about level 70 you have the whole augment and magic board on every character...
AK47 said on: 2006-12-13 12:22 pm
4385 Days, 22 Hrs, 3 Min, 4 Sec ago

gemz...what bird are you talking about? i dont think you and i are on the same page. '-_-
...i dont have ashe in my party. right now im in the stage where balthier and that chick wanted some treasure i(vaan) stole and we ended up crashing(some motorcycle that flies) and now we are in the sewer. just learned the gambits.

[Added at 12/13/2006 14:59:36 by AK47]

i opened a treasure i wasnt suppose to open and saved. looks like i cant get this powerful weapon. =[
Jeany said on: 2006-12-13 02:25 pm
4385 Days, 20 Hrs, 47 Sec ago
He was just saying that later on some monsters fly and you need to kill them entirely using ranged attacked. So he is saying you need to have people equiped to do ranged damage.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-14 12:05 pm
4384 Days, 22 Hrs, 20 Min, 58 Sec ago

ok got it!
...anyway, right now i am in a city in the sky. havent done anything yet. just got a few questions...

what should i use my points for in relevance to the licenses? ex: should i make Vaan a magic-type or warrior-type, etc. im not sure who should do what and what to research. '-_-

this is definately the most confusing FF game. why cant they just use junctions!
Gemz said on: 2006-12-14 12:49 pm
4384 Days, 21 Hrs, 36 Min, 44 Sec ago
because they are expermiting.

Id suggest u give everyone cure... atleast. And use gambits for it. It helps alot. Also, you will lvl alot in that mine.

Licenses, get enough to wear the type of armor and weapons ur using and put the rest in other stuff. Like battle lore and potion lore. +100 hp is helpfull. Have soemoen go though magic and pick up shell and protect.

Everything is nice, just keep killin licoln log and sellin it.
Jeany said on: 2006-12-15 02:34 am
4384 Days, 7 Hrs, 51 Min, 29 Sec ago
get 3 quickenings on all 6 characters asap it makes the game easymode til the final bosses
AK47 said on: 2006-12-15 09:45 am
4384 Days, 41 Minutes, 0 Seconds ago

ok and to get a better grasp of what quickenings do, its basically "limit break" or "overdrive"?
...i saw that i could get one but it says that only one character can use a specific quickening. i dont know which ones are good and which ones certain characters should have.
FireStarter said on: 2006-12-15 02:02 pm
4383 Days, 20 Hrs, 23 Min, 37 Sec ago
All the quickeneings are roughly the same for each individual character.

For example... Vaan's first quickening is called Red Spiral and no matter what spot he goes to on the license board that has a quickening on it they will all say Red Spiral until he learns it.

Same goes for the other characters they have their own specific quickenings but it doesnt matter which spot you learn it from really.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-15 02:12 pm
4383 Days, 20 Hrs, 13 Min, 31 Sec ago

i see! there is no point for the game to say "only 1 character can learn..."!!!
either way, yeah Vaan just learned Red Spiral. dont really understand how to use it though.

btw...i just came out of the "something" mines in that sky city.
Stargazer_doma said on: 2006-12-15 04:37 pm
4383 Days, 17 Hrs, 48 Min, 3 Sec ago
quickenings: quite easy. the best feature of them is the fact they multiply your base mp.

for exemple, you have 62 mp without quickenings. learn one you get 124, learn 2 you get 186 (not TOO sure about that last one) etc.

dont use them too much as they drain you WHOLE mp once used. and for most battles, buffs like protect and shell are much better than quickenings. (remember, getting hit for 0 is more usefull than hitting for 9999)

how to use them:
when you use the first one you have 4 seconds to press r2 and get a mist charge on a character, once you see mist charge, stop pressing r2 and press the button next to the character's name and you will be able to chain quickenings.

in turn chain quickenings do more damage


For the license part, i suggest you start off by spending most of you license points (NOT ALL OF THEM) on the upper license grid (the one with technicks) and going to the lower left part. they have "hp +100" and "strength up" things which are usefull... very usefull. but also dont forget to create a magician for healing and buffs. or you're screwed. potions are good, but not enough to not do a caster

also continue leveling vaan as i think he has one of the highest strength/vitality stats

pretty much summs up what i know of the game for now
Jeany said on: 2006-12-15 10:27 pm
4383 Days, 11 Hrs, 58 Min, 51 Sec ago
Well quickenings are very powerful if you are good at using them and are great on boss fights. You can pretty much 1 shot every boss til the last 2 ones if you use them well. If you have 6 people with 3 quickenings you can do 4 chains. and if you are good you can trigger ark blast at least half of the time. so the bosses just go down real fast and easy. so you can kill the bosses before they even touch you!
Stargazer_doma said on: 2006-12-16 10:29 am
4382 Days, 23 Hrs, 56 Min, 48 Sec ago
sure you can jeany, but truly, i for one prefer tokeep my MP. so if the quickenings dont work out fine, im not close to completely screwed :P
Gemz said on: 2006-12-16 10:39 am
4382 Days, 23 Hrs, 46 Min, 44 Sec ago
ethers :)
Jeany said on: 2006-12-16 11:28 am
4382 Days, 22 Hrs, 57 Min, 25 Sec ago
yeah you can buy ethers or use charge since it's free...And use consumables instead of magic healing...
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2006-12-16 12:45 pm
4382 Days, 21 Hrs, 40 Min, 56 Sec ago
charge is great, especially once you get "Self MP < 20%: Charge" but until then it's quite a pain...

Quickenings are nice, even later into the game they can be useful for bosses that spam monsters at the beginning of the fight, since you can do an area of effect attack and wipe them all out without too much effort.

Summonings are a waste, guys like Zodiark die in once hit by the the time you can get him. In fact the only time I ever used a summoning for a boss fight was against the Ring Wyrm (I used Belias) because his fire breath healed him.

Other than that, one nice tip is that the "Ally=Any: 'buff'" gambit won't try to recast a buff if the ally already has it (although there are expections to this, especially during later hunts where you get an ally who's immune to "Bubble") and the reverse is true with the dispel spell too (although it auto-dispels slow for some reason)

Oh yeah and don't be afraid to spam potions, they're easy to get and really helpful at the start of the game if you need them.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-16 02:01 pm
4382 Days, 20 Hrs, 24 Min, 51 Sec ago

just wanna know if im doing good.

i have about 700 gils and no elders(aeons). i am in the fight with Judge Ghis.
Stargazer_doma said on: 2006-12-16 04:11 pm
4382 Days, 18 Hrs, 14 Min, 19 Sec ago
curaja fully heals you (or REALLY DARN CLOSE) x-potions dont
ethers are a good way of countering the loss of mp and even if you do use an ether, time you use an ether + time to recast "buff" is too long for me.

i never said quickenings are useless.

i plainly said their overated. you need to be lucky not "use them right" there are no strategies on how to get mist charges more often, apart maybe from raising the luck stat

Gemz said on: 2006-12-16 04:13 pm
4382 Days, 18 Hrs, 12 Min, 28 Sec ago
i just got done with the wyrm dude...

*needs to create a magic user*
AK47 said on: 2006-12-16 11:48 pm
4382 Days, 10 Hrs, 37 Min, 43 Sec ago

LMFAO! i got my ass kicked by Judge Ghis twice. then i remembered i had experience points for my licenses and i unlocked Ashes quickening. I went into the fight and used Vaan's quickening and kept going back and forth with Ashe and I killed him with 1 hit.LOL! i didnt get touched.haha!=P

point? quickenings are GREAT!LOL!
Jeany said on: 2006-12-16 11:52 pm
4382 Days, 10 Hrs, 33 Min, 17 Sec ago
getting mist charges is pure luck but using them correctly isn't. you need to know how tu shuffle out of and attack you don't want to use and be quick at it...Like I said I average about 10 hits every quickening chains sometimes higher somtimes lower. combine that times 4 and it does alot of damage... and even if you miss 1 chain you have 3 others to save you. like I said I just totally owned everyboss with them until the final 2 encounters and in most of the fights I didn't need to heal because I wasn't delt any damage.
Gemz said on: 2006-12-17 04:39 pm
4381 Days, 17 Hrs, 46 Min, 58 Sec ago

Statues after mount ob(something another)

3 statues, which way do they face on the map.

As in.

First statue, east, second, north, third west.

Is that correct?
Jeany said on: 2006-12-17 04:04 pm
4381 Days, 18 Hrs, 21 Min, 34 Sec ago
you need to be abouyt level 300 to be able to kill the first wall and have good gear.

[Added at 12/17/2006 17:38:23 by Jeany]
level 30*
Stargazer_doma said on: 2006-12-17 10:28 am
4381 Days, 23 Hrs, 58 Min, 0 Sec ago
if your talking about adrammelech, STAY AWAY FROM HIM flying esper... hits pretty hard... and i doubt your at an adequate level...
Gemz said on: 2006-12-17 12:05 pm
4381 Days, 22 Hrs, 20 Min, 22 Sec ago
Actualy, He is very easy unless your entirely melee....

(like i was)
AK47 said on: 2006-12-17 12:33 pm
4381 Days, 21 Hrs, 52 Min, 38 Sec ago

i am fighting teh demon wall. the 2nd one was ALOT either then the 1st one. im having trouble with the 1st one. im trying to beat it so i get the treasure through the 2 doors. any advice? i keep using quickenings. when i finish with all of them i only take about half its HP. '-_-

[Added at 12/17/2006 15:23:51 by AK47]

i beat the 2nd wall and the esper but i still cant beat the 1st wall. wtf?! >=[

btw...espers are worthless right? does it matter who has it?
AK47 said on: 2006-12-17 01:32 am
4382 Days, 8 Hrs, 53 Min, 53 Sec ago

ok right now i am in a sandsea. not the 1st one but the 2nd one, where you fight a giant turtle. i heard there is an esper(aeon) around. where is it?
will the gameplay automatically lead me to it or is it a side quest?
Jeany said on: 2006-12-17 06:52 pm
4381 Days, 15 Hrs, 33 Min, 40 Sec ago
they need to face towards the center.
Gemz said on: 2006-12-17 08:54 pm
4381 Days, 13 Hrs, 31 Min, 56 Sec ago

To the north i go!

icebrand is sexy
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2006-12-17 10:34 pm
4381 Days, 11 Hrs, 51 Min, 59 Sec ago
icebrand roxorz
AK47 said on: 2006-12-18 04:19 pm
4380 Days, 18 Hrs, 6 Min, 51 Sec ago

this is bull! i got 12 quickening hits off along with "Torrent" with my 1st cast and then 9 quickening hits with "Torrent" again and i still lost to that Wall Demon.(i keep going back to fight it). I did like 18k of damage and was so close but the wall closed in on me and killed me! =[
...i highest leveled guy is Basch at 17.

[Added at 12/18/2006 17:19:42 by AK47]

*im 15hrs into the game and am suppose to go to the Giza Plains(raining).
Gemz said on: 2006-12-18 05:13 pm
4380 Days, 17 Hrs, 12 Min, 9 Sec ago

Get x3 ethers.


Charge ether


Charge ether


Charge ether


If that doesnt kill him, move on.
AK47 said on: 2006-12-18 05:45 pm
4380 Days, 16 Hrs, 40 Min, 4 Sec ago

LOL i beat em. i tried and died like 5 times in a row. quit for a while and tried again but i was just pressing anything and guess what?...i won! '-_-
...i got the demonbane i believe.woot!
Space-Monkey said on: 2006-12-18 06:08 pm
4380 Days, 16 Hrs, 17 Min, 26 Sec ago
game is easy.....the end!
AK47 said on: 2006-12-18 10:29 pm
4380 Days, 11 Hrs, 56 Min, 30 Sec ago

*smacks nuggems with IC trout* is your mom! =P

[Added at 12/18/2006 23:29:46 by AK47]

...burn baby burn!
AK47 said on: 2006-12-20 11:07 pm
4378 Days, 11 Hrs, 18 Min, 36 Sec ago

giving an update!...just got out of the forest place where the village for those tree women are. forgot their name.LOL.
...i went to the Zeritan Caverns to fight the Esper. I got my ass kicked. =[
Gemz said on: 2006-12-21 06:31 am
4378 Days, 3 Hrs, 54 Min, 25 Sec ago

Thats not an esper i belive.

You dont get another esper until after mount ortian or something like that.
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2006-12-21 03:08 pm
4377 Days, 19 Hrs, 17 Min, 50 Sec ago
yeah there's an esper in there, he's pretty tough, just because of all of those skeleton adds... t he trick is to kill as many of them as you can before you start fighting the boss, and set your gambits to attack the monsters with the lowest HP

Ok for those of you who are further along, how on earth do you beat Gilgamesh's second form? I've tried killing the dog first, blinding it, etc., but even with that whenever Gilgamesh swings at me I just die, especially when bubble is down. I tried using Decoy and Reverse, but Reverse lasts about 5 seconds before it wears off, and then it's lights out. Has anyone killed him? I'm currently level 41, so maybe I'm just too low of a level for it :(
Gemz said on: 2006-12-21 04:38 pm
4377 Days, 17 Hrs, 47 Min, 52 Sec ago
ya im not using a guide...


Try doing stuff without a guide lol
AK47 said on: 2006-12-22 12:03 am
4377 Days, 10 Hrs, 22 Min, 25 Sec ago just too weak to beat em. my highest leveled guy is now Basch at 23 with Vaan and Balthier at 22. The chicks are all at 16.

...i just got my ass kicked fighting the "Edler Dragon". The thing used like "Bad Breathe"(FF8/FF10) and casted silence, poison, sleep,etc.
then i decided to go the other way and i made it to a new section(forgot the name) and got killed by these stupid red headed little people.LOL!
AK47 said on: 2006-12-27 10:52 am
4371 Days, 23 Hrs, 33 Min, 26 Sec ago

wow...i totally forgot i had this game.LOL. i stopped playing it. must..go..back! =P
Gemz said on: 2006-12-28 07:09 am
4371 Days, 3 Hrs, 16 Min, 51 Sec ago
im at the final mission :)

(buyin stuff now)
Stargazer_doma said on: 2006-12-28 07:24 pm
4370 Days, 15 Hrs, 1 Min, 9 Sec ago
just got finished with the storyline part of the game... not bad i guess... now only leaves the marks and other stuff :P
Stargazer_doma said on: 2007-01-01 05:20 pm
4366 Days, 17 Hrs, 5 Min, 8 Sec ago
wheres the city where you buy ethers, i cant seem to find it...

[Added at 01/01/2007 19:01:57 by Stargazer_doma]
nvm found the secret shop
Ultraman6 said on: 2007-01-03 02:11 am
4365 Days, 8 Hrs, 14 Min, 31 Sec ago
>_< For those of you that are further than me in the game.. (right after the Gran Kiltias dies from the Judge with the Nethecite) what level should I be?
Right now I'm suppose to be going to Nalbina?

Am I too high leveled for where I am?

Vaan lvl 38
Balthier lvl 31
Fran lvl 36
Basch lvl 36
Ashe lvl 35
Penelo lvl 35

[Added at 01/03/2007 03:14:39 by Ultraman6]
>_> btw, I don't know how I got so high, I've just been doing all the hunts. Too scared to hunt the Carrot though, Rank VII T_T
AK47 said on: 2007-01-03 07:54 am
4365 Days, 2 Hrs, 31 Min, 53 Sec ago

ehh...just recently i defeated the Elder Dragoni the Golmore jungle, and got like an hour into the storyline. ended up watching like a 10 minute(sigh) cut-scene. my levels are:

Vaan: 26
Basch: 26
Balthier: 25
Ashe: 17
Fran: 16
Penelo: 16

btw...i just upgraded all their weapons. the weakest one is penelo with like 48 strength, and my strongest is Basch with 64 stength.
Kaiva said on: 2007-01-03 08:38 am
4365 Days, 1 Hr, 47 Min, 14 Sec ago
Jeany said on: 12/11/06 3:16 pm
(22 Days, 18 Hrs, 17 Min, 50 Sec ago)
I good trick to get money is to chain monsters... if you can pull off a chain of 100 of the same type of monster they will be droping much more loot.. Also the license system is easier than the sphere grid :o...and gambits once you figure them out there really is nothing to them..

I didn't think the sphere grid was hard....just the level 4 locks were rare to come by. Anywho a friend of mine let me borrow ff12 but I have yet to touch it, I've been to busy pwning Ozma and collecting cards on ff9. =P
AK47 said on: 2007-01-04 09:56 pm
4363 Days, 12 Hrs, 29 Min, 44 Sec ago

hey kaiva!...long time no talk or see. hows

*back to FF12*
ahh...just got that esper thats made up of ice and went to defeat another judge(with ease). im going to go check out that hidden esper that is supposely in the same temple as the ice esper.
AK47 said on: 2007-01-10 12:53 pm
4357 Days, 21 Hrs, 32 Min, 25 Sec ago

...we cant lose this thread. im not done when the game yet! =P
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2007-01-18 06:45 am
4350 Days, 3 Hrs, 40 Min, 33 Sec ago
I beat it but I haven't done all of those side missions like Yizamat yet.... not sure if I ever will though