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Very last year of D.E.M.O.N. inductions 69 replies

DannyFo (Mod) said on: 2010-07-27 11:00 pm
2698 Days, 14 Hrs, 40 Min, 33 Sec ago
Hey everyone,

I've decided that this will be the final year that D.E.M.O.N. will induct new members.

The community has dwindled far too much to continue adding people to an elite list when there isn't any competition.

That being said, this year I'm opening nominations up to everyone in the community. Just post here with a list of people you think should be inducted. You can list any number of people, but put them in the order you think they deserve it. On September 1st I will tally all the nominations and announce 5 inductions (rather than the normal 3).

A current list can be found on my homepage.

Thanks everyone =)
AK47 said on: 2010-07-28 04:30 am
2698 Days, 9 Hrs, 9 Min, 46 Sec ago

danny...your list isnt updated (im not on it nub). =P

LOL!

Jing said on: 2010-07-28 05:25 am
2698 Days, 8 Hrs, 15 Min, 28 Sec ago
Benladensuck.
Warmor.
SumoPowers.
chipootle.
Snowflake34.

Why?
So when someone reads the D.E.M.O.N list, they'll go... "Who the f*ck is this guy???"
DivineDragon said on: 2010-07-28 06:07 am
2698 Days, 7 Hrs, 32 Min, 46 Sec ago
SweetYlang
Fbg
Chelly
LagunaCid
TinaMiaz


Granted a few of them don't quite fit the word "diligent", as they aren't really active anymore.
DannyFo (Mod) said on: 2010-07-28 08:28 am
2698 Days, 5 Hrs, 11 Min, 49 Sec ago
Who were the other 2 last year AK? Kazoany and Doalca?
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2010-07-28 08:45 am
2698 Days, 4 Hrs, 55 Min, 37 Sec ago
:o Teh Commmmies!!!!
DaisukeNiwa said on: 2010-07-28 10:16 am
2698 Days, 3 Hrs, 24 Min, 21 Sec ago
From my era of time on NN...

Jing
Sal
Stoutn
Guildamage
Stoutn said on: 2010-07-28 10:17 am
2698 Days, 3 Hrs, 22 Min, 40 Sec ago
Eion
TBrown
Jing
Guildamage
Sal

DaisukeNiwa said on: 2010-07-28 10:20 am
2698 Days, 3 Hrs, 20 Min, 7 Sec ago
TBrown too! Moony too!!Moon has keep SM around forever... That's dedication.
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-07-28 12:37 pm
2698 Days, 1 Hr, 3 Min, 25 Sec ago
What is the prize for being in that list?
Stoutn said on: 2010-07-28 01:58 pm
2697 Days, 23 Hrs, 42 Min, 37 Sec ago
Well usually it's being part of D.E.M.O.N. But with this being the last year, I guess being the last Demon members to be added...
AK47 said on: 2010-07-28 03:08 pm
2697 Days, 22 Hrs, 32 Min, 12 Sec ago

i believe so danny...i thought it was doalca, kazoany and someone else?!

my votes:

jing
moonshine

[Added at 07/28/2010 16:09:57 by AK47]

LMAO...i was the other one!! i forgot!! =P

my votes:

jing
moonshine
fbg
?
?
Moonshine said on: 2010-07-28 11:33 pm
2697 Days, 14 Hrs, 7 Min, 21 Sec ago
Indeed this game has definitely dwindled down. Honestly for me there is no competitive drive. Its dull with people leaving left and right. What keeps me around is getting on the record books and thats how pathetic it actually is. Theres no wars and when there is I feel like I war the same people. Back when there was actually a community I would be more driven to actually not miss turns and rank well and dammit if there was a war I would be checking my nations every hour or moment I could. Now its like I dont care if I miss two hours of turns. Like when AK started snow balling some wins he was driven to pull towards the top. When there was 7 n 8 competitive clans you wanted to strive to make your clan the best, recruiting and what not. I haven't tried recruiting anyone in a LONG time. Theres just no competition edge I feel. Hell I am ranked 35th now and have missed the most turns I ever have since being here. Back in the day I wouldn't even be ranked now. This round ill finally move into 10th on the most ranked list. Something ive been striving for since cronus left. Sad to say thats what has kept me here and now that it is completed im hoping to find some motivation to stick around.

I havn't really been involved in the game recently to make some valid nominations. Im gonna look at some players who are not in demon, look at some stats and what i remember of the players (character/attitude/loyalty/gameplay). Just some of the things I feel a demon member should share.

Although the list wont matter much at all sooner or later (most likely sooner). My two ¢
Entity-Neo said on: 2010-07-29 08:50 am
2697 Days, 4 Hrs, 49 Min, 47 Sec ago
id nominate everyone that still plays this game
but i dont think that adds up to 5?
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-07-29 09:51 am
2697 Days, 3 Hrs, 49 Min, 7 Sec ago
A few problems with this.

1. Demon has only allowed demon members to vote on initiates in the past. So this year is a farce.

2. The only person worth nominating is jing, no offence but jing is the last player outside of demon to be worthy of being in it.

3. There are more people in demon then there are people playing nations. So how are they elite?

4. Demon is just like the commies a fan club or another type of clan, that is in no way elite or special aside from pr time needed to join.

5. I'd think demon would be worthwhile if kept to 10-15 members who are the all time best at what they did and if they came back they would still be great.

I.e Loki, AK, Jing, Cody, Highwind. Those are/would be the only people I'd want in Demon. By what I think demon should be I don't make the cut, but maybe I'm an old grump, but this is a joke Danny.

Call this off or do it how it should be done and allow demon to maintain some dignity.
Moonshine said on: 2010-07-29 02:56 pm
2696 Days, 22 Hrs, 44 Min, 37 Sec ago
"3. There are more people in demon then there are people playing nations. So how are they elite?"

Well its simple. The players in Demon are the "elite players" from their era. Since the game has diminished we simply gotta elect fewer demon inductees each time and further apart each time. As far as players now, yea they might be elite now but the oldies like me think "well would they have been that good back in the day." well theres no answer to that so you simply have to go with the present day evidence.

So perhaps two are elected every year? 6 months? Who cares really how big the list is. A lot of worthy players should be on it whether its because they ranked top 10 90% of the time for 3 years or simply because they gave a lot to the community over the "years".
SeniorUnloco said on: 2010-07-29 03:12 pm
2696 Days, 22 Hrs, 28 Min, 27 Sec ago
I are a DEMON arent i??

[Added at 07/29/2010 16:16:23 by SeniorUnloco]
And take a good look. A good portion of the members of DEMON are Mods/Admins or Ex-Mods.

And the others are Player that were THE top of the game at their peak.
AK47 said on: 2010-07-29 08:56 pm
2696 Days, 16 Hrs, 43 Min, 49 Sec ago


i would just like to say that Dannyfo's current list has 42 DEMON members. I DONT believe that is alot of members for a site that has lasted well over 10 yrs and has had an estimated 1000 members.

I was around for the following people and witnessed their influence to both Nations and the community to whom played the game. I believe their mention as memebers of "Diligent Elite Members Of Nations" aka DEMON is well-deserved.


Battlecruiser- 2nd most wins in Nations history, developed low-land teching, and a mod.

Chinaman- founder of Dynasty and the first to lead a clan of over 100 memebers at once.

DannyFO- Soulslayer clan member and one of three founders of True X. Also creator of the DEMON society.

Gi_joe- Founder of Avengers clan and one of the greatest overall human beings to ever grace Netnexus.

Korgrath- Leader of Inner Circle since before I was born and longtime mod of Nations.

Loki- Leader of True X and founder of Gate Keepers. Former mod of Nations.

ShadyKnight- Current mod of Nations, founder of Nexus training clan, and leader of True X.

Stormbringer- Founder of the Chattan clan and one of the longest active players around.

Tarsonis21- Admin who greatly changed the face of Nations and Netnexus.

WeaponX- Founder of Devils Knights clan, current mod and longtime player.

Goliath- Founder of Liquid Endeavor clan and member of Soulslayers clan. Uncovered the first style of techie (so I heard).

Hicric- Leader of Frontline clan and (for humor) EVERYONE IS HICRIC.

Shinji- Founder of Sado Masochists clan and former leader of Inner Circle.

Thruster- Leader of True X and founder of clan DOOM. Long time active player.

Cronus- Leader of True X and long time active player.

Deano-Wales- Founder of Viking Warriors clan and contributor to the warring aspect of Nations.

Highwind- Founder of Inner Circle and an original member of Nations.

thebest- One of three founders of True X and the 2nd ever "elite" techer.

Vodka- Long time former Mod and leader of Sado Masochists.
CRACKER_JACK said on: 2010-07-30 08:31 am
2696 Days, 5 Hrs, 9 Min, 9 Sec ago
I think HEHE is one of the best players, 72 ranked rounds & counting, and he has done it all as a user, without much support. Just because he is not spamming the boards or chat rooms, does not make him one of the best. If he would of moved to an active clan i am sure he would have 3-5 wins by now. I have been around a long time, & HEHE is the real deal.

My 2 cents
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-07-30 11:40 am
2696 Days, 1 Hr, 59 Min, 59 Sec ago
I vote HeHe and Jing

[Added at 07/30/2010 12:41:20 by _ElessaR_]
Oh no, I forgot, only demon members can vote. Forget what I said >.<
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2010-07-30 12:58 pm
2696 Days, 42 Minutes, 12 Seconds ago
If I recall correctly, it became Diligent Elite Members of Netnexus and most people on this list have made major contributions to the site in general.
Tommy_V said on: 2010-07-30 02:26 pm
2695 Days, 23 Hrs, 13 Min, 45 Sec ago
How is Jing not in it yet?

:O
NOOKIE said on: 2010-07-30 07:13 pm
2695 Days, 18 Hrs, 26 Min, 51 Sec ago
2 votes (cracker jack & nookie) for HEHE
Nataku said on: 2010-07-30 08:49 pm
2695 Days, 16 Hrs, 51 Min, 31 Sec ago
i vote for WARBEAST
DivineDragon said on: 2010-07-31 12:51 am
2695 Days, 12 Hrs, 49 Min, 25 Sec ago
I forgot two...

SeanM
Brian


I figure it goes without saying that they both did wonders for this site, being as one created said site and the other was a long time admin of the biggest game on said site.
Moonshine said on: 2010-07-31 08:41 am
2695 Days, 4 Hrs, 58 Min, 47 Sec ago
SeanM could care less about this site. He makes a game then never checks up on it?
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2010-07-31 11:25 am
2695 Days, 2 Hrs, 14 Min, 55 Sec ago
Jing and Hehe.
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2010-07-31 01:23 pm
2695 Days, 17 Minutes, 36 Seconds ago
I vote









Top 10 Highest Rounds (After 56)

Name Nation Tech Round
1. Battlecruiser of Silver Wing 299.29 82
2. Jing of Operation Top 50 297.66 80
3. TheWhiteDemon of White Pride 296.46 87
4. Djstayer5211 of The End 295.50 87
5. _ElessaR_ of ~ GoD's C|0wN ~ 292.73 86
6. AK47 of TEH GUN 291.48 74
7. AK47 of TEH GUN 288.68 83
8. Battlecruiser of Silver Wing 288.24 85
9. AK47 of TEH GUN 286.88 81
10. Djstayer5211 of The End 284.94 83


Top 10 Most Ranked

Name Nation Count
1. SweetYlang of Kum4ort Kingdom 78
2. DoAlCa of DoAlCa's nation 77
3. Kazoany of Antliersky 75
4. THRUSTER of E=mc2 73
5. Stormbringer of Outback 72
6. Hehe of hihi 72
7. Gi_joe of outta this world 62
8. JEBStuart of Bandido Charlie 61
9. Bubble_dees of Perfect Circle 58
10. Cronus of ~X~ 55

Superman said on: 2010-08-01 09:42 pm
2693 Days, 15 Hrs, 58 Min, 36 Sec ago
meh...
Chinaman = a good leader for the first 5 years.

Justice--League was the first clan over 100 members, Dynasty was second. Chiny(sam) was never in it at the time.

I can tell you alot of demon members rarely played nations. And that DEMON is a pathetic way of making this game some popularity contest.

I gave up on it.
The day i was inducted then rudely taken out. meh let the site die...

AK47 said on: 2010-08-02 07:30 pm
2692 Days, 18 Hrs, 10 Min, 38 Sec ago

my five:

jing
moonshine
hehe
fbg
warbeast
Stormbringer said on: 2010-08-02 08:26 pm
2692 Days, 17 Hrs, 13 Min, 50 Sec ago
Here's my five:
Hehe
JEBStuart
Jing
Moonshine
Warbeast
DivineDragon said on: 2010-08-03 04:31 am
2692 Days, 9 Hrs, 9 Min, 8 Sec ago
"SeanM could care less about this site. He makes a game then never checks up on it?"

He's like god... Creates the world, then abandons it. :D
Moonshine said on: 2010-08-03 04:41 am
2692 Days, 8 Hrs, 58 Min, 52 Sec ago
haha great comparison
Stormbringer said on: 2010-08-03 04:46 am
2692 Days, 8 Hrs, 54 Min, 25 Sec ago
Please amend my list. Remove Warbeast and add Pic!
Capone_raven said on: 2010-08-03 07:24 pm
2691 Days, 18 Hrs, 15 Min, 41 Sec ago
wow,warbeast gets nomination over al_capone?,had alot longer tenure of mayhem them him.anyhow,i think it doesnt matter since its the last one.
Ayanami said on: 2010-08-06 09:04 am
2689 Days, 4 Hrs, 35 Min, 59 Sec ago
yes I also support the movement towards diligent vs elite :) /end sarcasm

[Added at 08/06/2010 10:17:18 by Ayanami]
lol trolling aside,

It'd be nice to have some dummy prizes for notority like WB, warbeast ehehe

[Added at 08/06/2010 10:46:34 by Ayanami]
hmm additional categories for comedy purposes could be..

Poor guys who had a clan dumped on em, run it 10x better

Techers who've posted/spoken less times then they've ranked top 50 so ignored

Trollers who turn up long enough to war/annoy everyone then come back all friendly (cycically)

Really great players who nobody besides the leaders ever talked to so are faceless heros

Cheaters who prosper until they fade into oblivion, anyone remember Arbiter? Shin did well for a while too xD

Clan staples who every loves but play into people's shadows

Ones who look like multies or have personalities on par with them, play for years as people's techies too
Elmy said on: 2010-08-06 07:16 pm
2688 Days, 18 Hrs, 24 Min, 25 Sec ago
Jing.
Ayanami said on: 2010-08-06 08:19 pm
2688 Days, 17 Hrs, 21 Min, 5 Sec ago
I support Jing too lol
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-08-07 07:34 am
2688 Days, 6 Hrs, 6 Min, 35 Sec ago
I agree with Ayanami. We should have such titles voted after each round. It would make the game slightly more exciting.

other examples would be

Most annoying player
Best new player of the round
Best player of the round
Most valuable player of the round
Murdock86 said on: 2010-08-08 01:12 am
2687 Days, 12 Hrs, 28 Min, 9 Sec ago
Jing.
Pixie said on: 2010-08-08 05:07 am
2687 Days, 8 Hrs, 33 Min, 14 Sec ago
Good to see I know most of the members of D.E.M.O.N

Arch-Devil said on: 2010-08-08 03:19 pm
2686 Days, 22 Hrs, 21 Min, 31 Sec ago
One day SeanM will return and take us all to a better place...

heh

Jing?
Nataku said on: 2010-08-08 04:20 pm
2686 Days, 21 Hrs, 20 Min, 23 Sec ago
SeanM spoke to me in a dream one time.
Jing said on: 2010-08-08 07:39 pm
2686 Days, 18 Hrs, 1 Min, 14 Sec ago
I like to change my list.
I forgot that in this site, every vote really does counts..

And so, in no particular order...

Moonshine: The creator of UA, the leader of SM, and one of the best player that is still around. I rather not go too deep into him so this won't become a five page essay.

Hehe: If netnexus had a dictionary, then under the word loyalty would be Hehe's picture (figuratively speaking of course). Heck of a guy to stick by his clan even when most of them are inactive. From the time I've spent in Hoieri, I say he's also a pretty down-to-earth player.

Warbeast: For literally declaring war on everyone and just being a pain in the ass. Even though he's about as dangerous as five-year old, and just as annoying, we all love teasing him. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, he made the game interesting. That is why he is the only player with a fan club!

Sal: With his 1 land tactic (Or Pic's, depending who you talk to), he was once considered the best player of his time, whose only competition was Pic. After building a solid reputation, he created Nirvana and gathered most of the players into his new clan, which at it's peak, was around 50 members. For three rounds, he warred like a beast, and inspired me to create the 50 land tactic. He also taught me the basics when I don't have a clue how much I sucked. Though his ego is about as big as his bosom, I say he deserve being on the list.

Tbrown: Better our friendly neighborhood Admin than Fbg. No offense, Jess.
Goliath said on: 2010-08-13 10:24 pm
2681 Days, 15 Hrs, 15 Min, 40 Sec ago
*wakes up from hibernation*

AK47, it seems that legend has crept in with fact, at least in my case. ;)

I was *one* of the founding members of LE, and I was never a member of Soulslayers at all. My first clan was the Illegitimate Alliance (IA), which later basically became LE.

I can't claim credit for developing the "first" tech strategy--I think Thebest was on that a little before I came along--but I did develop an advanced tech method that built upon the existing knowledge of the time, which IA and LE both used to spectacular effect.

Anyway, carry on. d(^_^v)
Sal said on: 2010-08-16 08:17 pm
2678 Days, 17 Hrs, 23 Min, 6 Sec ago
Amen jing although the ego is really just forced e-attitude for laughs.
_Highroller_ said on: 2010-08-16 11:28 pm
2678 Days, 14 Hrs, 11 Min, 53 Sec ago


1.Moony - Long time leader of sM. One Win. 56 ranked rounds. Dude is family.

2.Jing - Community clown. All around a good player. One win and seven top 5's is pretty impressive. Someone I liked in sM.

3.Jebstuart - Competitive. Always tough in wars. Long time member of 7th Calvary back in the day. Had some good battles with him over the years.


Walt disney has been around forever although he lacks a win and high rankings. He was a tank when in Vikings though back in the day.

Moonshine said on: 2010-08-19 11:10 am
2676 Days, 2 Hrs, 30 Min, 22 Sec ago
My votes

Pic..... was an awesome player and even better person. I learned a lot from him. My partner in creating UA and he racked up some wins.

Jing.... has just been around forever. Always in the chat and forums. Not even talking about his nations game. Hes an elite player. Someone everyone should want in their clan. Jing is an automatic inductee. ;)

Bmxbrigade.... Bmx is someone who probably wont get in DEMON but i feel he should. He was an excellent player and was always INVOLVED in the game. Scoping out things going on and whatnot. When shinji n Vodka left and Toast and shinryo were MIA bmx helped me out with sM. He was loyal, elite, and experienced as hes been here a long long time. 2 wins and a crap ton of top tens.

Hehe ... This is easy. Leader of Hoieri since ive been here so thats saying a lot. Always ranking towards the top and the number of rankings says it all.

Myself ... probably an ignorant move in most eyes but i said it anyways. Ive been here for 6 years and have missed one round. Ive taught people, ive tried getting people to play this game, and ive never harassed anyone here. (from what i remember)
Being in DEMON would be an honor only because I feel like ive been here for sooo long. When I first got here I remember wanting to be in DEMON one day. But i kno after this its over, and quite frankly it really just wont matter. :/


Couple other people I could throw out there are stoutn and xsquad.
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-08-19 02:00 pm
2675 Days, 23 Hrs, 39 Min, 56 Sec ago
You harass me all the time!
Meany head :P
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2010-08-19 02:12 pm
2675 Days, 23 Hrs, 28 Min, 34 Sec ago
Ive seen it.
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-08-19 11:09 pm
2675 Days, 14 Hrs, 30 Min, 59 Sec ago
You sexually harrased Nataku many times.

I saw it!
Jing said on: 2010-08-20 01:19 am
2675 Days, 12 Hrs, 20 Min, 40 Sec ago
There's not a man here who hasn't been violated by your man-seed.

That's right!
He's cheating on all of us! GUT HIM!
Moonshine said on: 2010-08-20 09:27 am
2675 Days, 4 Hrs, 13 Min, 37 Sec ago
Well i was pretty desperate then.. -_-
DoAlCa said on: 2010-08-20 01:10 pm
2675 Days, 30 Minutes, 0 Seconds ago
My votes:

Thunderbolt: Although most of you won't remember him cuz he has been away for a long time, he was one of the founders of Avengers and one of the best leaders that i have played with.

Pic: One of the best players and won several rounds.

Hehe: One of the most consistent players in nations and founder of Hoieri.

Bmxbrigade: Very solid and good player. Has played in many clans and is loyalty is admirable.

Sal: Same as Pic, was one of the best players and top winners. I'm not sure but i think he also made a guide for nations.

ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-08-20 02:23 pm
2674 Days, 23 Hrs, 16 Min, 52 Sec ago
Another small point, who gave Danny authority to declare this the last year for inductees and anyone can vote? Isn't Danny trying to make demon a dictatorship when it's a democracy? Or did I miss the vote when he got these powers cause I'm not demon? :P
Jing said on: 2010-08-20 03:21 pm
2674 Days, 22 Hrs, 19 Min, 9 Sec ago
I think Danny's the creator.
Slugster said on: 2010-08-20 06:22 pm
2674 Days, 19 Hrs, 17 Min, 43 Sec ago
BMX
SAL.

That is all. Been a good run.
DivineDragon said on: 2010-08-21 04:20 am
2674 Days, 9 Hrs, 19 Min, 51 Sec ago
Danny created demon waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy back in the day before he was even a VIP, theres certain privileges that come along with that....

[Added at 08/21/2010 05:25:02 by DivineDragon]
Also, someone mentioned that many people on the D.E.M.O.N. list become Mods/admins/builders/etc.

It just so happens that some of the same reasons we (or back in the day, just members of D.E.M.O.N.) vote for specific people are the same traits and characteristics that Admins and other mods look for in a future mod/admin.

As for the members that were elected the other way around, who can claim they've done more then a mod or admin. (When they are active and not corrupt anyway)
Ayanami said on: 2010-08-21 07:25 am
2674 Days, 6 Hrs, 14 Min, 56 Sec ago
well yeah the idea is you be most reasonably elected retrospectively if it's someone from the beginning lol
SweetYlang said on: 2010-08-22 11:33 pm
2672 Days, 14 Hrs, 7 Min, 18 Sec ago
Thanks for the vote DivineDragon..

yes, I remember most all of the players on D.E.M.O.N.

What has caused Nations to die out?






--::Dont forget to say your prayers and brush you teeth::
JEBStuart said on: 2010-08-23 01:13 pm
2672 Days, 27 Minutes, 4 Seconds ago
Storm and HighRoller--thanks for the nominations
Sal said on: 2010-08-24 02:20 am
2671 Days, 11 Hrs, 19 Min, 48 Sec ago
I love you too slug! :D Long time no see.


Oh and I recall making a guide and being a mod and being pretty damn helpful when nobody else was around.
Deano-Wales said on: 2010-09-02 04:07 pm
2661 Days, 21 Hrs, 33 Min, 5 Sec ago
Not sure of the full membership list but if they aren't already included, Storm and Jeb for sure, no explanation required as to why.
Jing said on: 2010-09-02 04:39 pm
2661 Days, 21 Hrs, 1 Min, 29 Sec ago
I think you're a day too late.
It's the second of September.
Jing said on: 2010-09-12 10:24 pm
2651 Days, 15 Hrs, 16 Min, 16 Sec ago
Danny's gone!
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2010-09-18 11:22 am
2646 Days, 2 Hrs, 18 Min, 3 Sec ago
Storms in there most definately, I remember nominating him :D
TinaMiaz said on: 2010-10-25 03:19 am
2609 Days, 10 Hrs, 21 Min, 14 Sec ago
1. ZiamaniT
Elmy said on: 2010-10-25 10:08 am
2609 Days, 3 Hrs, 32 Min, 21 Sec ago
You did it wrong@!
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2010-10-25 09:12 pm
2608 Days, 16 Hrs, 28 Min, 27 Sec ago
My new votes:

Jing
Pic
Sal
Moonshine
Hehe
TinaMiaz said on: 2010-10-28 12:09 am
2606 Days, 13 Hrs, 30 Min, 50 Sec ago
Wow, I actually spelled my own name wrong BACKWARDS. Was a rough day.