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New armors! 30 replies

Gemz said on: 2007-05-15 07:22 am
3869 Days, 7 Hrs, 19 Sec ago
There is one in hidden armor locker thats over 8 million and there is one in regular armors thats alittle over a million.

:)

But we have no detail in what they do. So someone test them out :)
Bottlecruiser said on: 2007-05-15 07:39 am
3869 Days, 6 Hrs, 43 Min, 26 Sec ago
You pay 0 credits.
You feel much larger in your new No Armor.
Gemz said on: 2007-05-15 07:52 am
3869 Days, 6 Hrs, 30 Min, 33 Sec ago
Ts said their not fully installed yet :(
Phasers said on: 2007-05-15 10:09 am
3869 Days, 4 Hrs, 13 Min, 42 Sec ago
I'm waiting too.. this lvl 3 energy shield isnt cutting it anymore
Bottlecruiser said on: 2007-05-15 01:17 pm
3869 Days, 1 Hr, 5 Min, 48 Sec ago
Adamite Vest
Cost: $1435200.00 Armor: 55


Goliath Mech Suite V2
Cost: $8732500.00 Armor: 75
Love it? Of course you do.

...
TinaMiaz said on: 2007-05-15 01:58 pm
3869 Days, 24 Minutes, 9 Seconds ago
I still think the cutting in half and 20 is better than 55 or 75. He should make one that like cuts their attk by 2/3 and does 30 def.

Lvl 4 Energy shield, ftw.
Phasers said on: 2007-05-15 02:26 pm
3868 Days, 23 Hrs, 57 Min, 1 Sec ago
or add an energy shield to the goliath mech v2... 75 armor + 1/2 damage. call is goliath mech v2 w/ energy shield :)
Silent_Killer said on: 2007-05-15 02:37 pm
3868 Days, 23 Hrs, 45 Min, 50 Sec ago
Cutting it by 2/3...
I don't think it's possible...
(I think it will result in less time spent in stasis...)

How about Enhanced Lvl 4 Energy Shield?
Cuts by 1/2 and blocks 45...
Mr.Liquid said on: 2007-05-15 02:42 pm
3868 Days, 23 Hrs, 40 Min, 52 Sec ago
The new armors do absorb half.
Crlaozwyn said on: 2007-05-15 03:10 pm
3868 Days, 23 Hrs, 12 Min, 40 Sec ago
You sure about that? Did you test on powerhits or what?

[Added at 05/15/2007 17:11:05 by Crlaozwyn]
And did you buy the 55 armor one or just the 75 armor one? Can anyone confirm this?
Mr.Liquid said on: 2007-05-15 03:19 pm
3868 Days, 23 Hrs, 3 Min, 12 Sec ago
TheSource said so in chat that they absorbed half the damage.
Crlaozwyn said on: 2007-05-15 03:25 pm
3868 Days, 22 Hrs, 57 Min, 25 Sec ago
Well, that settles that question :) Thanks.
Mr.Liquid said on: 2007-05-15 03:27 pm
3868 Days, 22 Hrs, 55 Min, 58 Sec ago
No problem.
MethodMan said on: 2007-05-15 04:25 pm
3868 Days, 21 Hrs, 57 Min, 20 Sec ago
I got hit for less using my lvl 3 energy shield then I do for my adamite vest.

So...
Mr.Liquid said on: 2007-05-15 04:28 pm
3868 Days, 21 Hrs, 54 Min, 37 Sec ago
Owned?

Useless armor :/
Crlaozwyn said on: 2007-05-15 04:40 pm
3868 Days, 21 Hrs, 42 Min, 43 Sec ago
Wonder if the admins will fix this (if it's a bug) or let us know if it does anything special...
Mr.Liquid said on: 2007-05-15 05:27 pm
3868 Days, 20 Hrs, 55 Min, 53 Sec ago
Dont buy new armors. The lvl 3 is better right now.

Lieutenant Colonel hits you with Flak Cannon for 134.
You hit the DrakenRahl =GoW= with your Portable Yamato Gun for 348.
Lieutenant Colonel hits you with Flak Cannon for 150.
You hit the DrakenRahl =GoW= with your Portable Yamato Gun for 274.

Thats with him having the most expensive armor.

Then he brought his account same rank with lvl 3 and i was hitting 23's and 30's.

[Added at 05/15/2007 19:27:40 by Mr.Liquid]
maybe
MethodMan said on: 2007-05-15 05:46 pm
3868 Days, 20 Hrs, 36 Min, 31 Sec ago
So then it's definatley a bug.

DrakenRahl said on: 2007-05-15 07:03 pm
3868 Days, 19 Hrs, 19 Min, 25 Sec ago
Don't know if it's a bug, or more or less that lvl3 is just better armor still.
Cllander said on: 2007-05-15 07:20 pm
3868 Days, 19 Hrs, 2 Min, 49 Sec ago
/wishes I read this thread before buying the Adamite Vest
TheSource (Admin) said on: 2007-05-15 10:05 pm
3868 Days, 16 Hrs, 17 Min, 24 Sec ago
<TheSource (Admin)> lvl 3 shield

<TheSource (Admin)> The Level 6 Zealot hits you with Psionic Blades for 30.

<TheSource (Admin)> adamite

<TheSource (Admin)> The Level 6 Zealot hits you with Psionic Blades for 9.

<TheSource (Admin)> lvl 3

<TheSource (Admin)> The Level 6 Wounded Dragoon hits you with Antimatter Cannon for 66.

<TheSource (Admin)> adamite The Level 6 Wounded Dragoon hits you with Antimatter Cannon for 44.

NumberTheory said on: 2007-05-15 10:53 pm
3868 Days, 15 Hrs, 29 Min, 16 Sec ago
Here are some of the tests that I ran to confirm TheSource's calculations.

They are somewhat strange however. I am testing the following armor:

Goliath Mech Suite V2
Cost: $8732500.00 Armor: 75
Love it? Of course you do.

(NOT THE ADAMITE ONE)

The first number in the list is with level 3 energy shield. The second is with the above armor (Goliath Mech Suite)

You encounter a Level 6 Zealot!
The Level 6 Zealot hits you with Psionic Blades for 31.
Goliath: You encounter a Level 6 Zealot!
The Level 6 Zealot hits you with Psionic Blades for 4.

You encounter a Level 8 Mutalisk!
The Level 8 Mutalisk hits you with Glave Wurm for 61.
Goliath: You encounter a Level 8 Mutalisk!
The Level 8 Mutalisk hits you with Glave Wurm for 34.

You encounter a Level 6 Wounded Dragoon!
The Level 6 Wounded Dragoon hits you with Antimatter Cannon for 68.
Goliath: You encounter a Level 6 Wounded Dragoon!
The Level 6 Wounded Dragoon hits you with Antimatter Cannon for 41.

You encounter a Level 7 Guardian!
The Level 7 Guardian hits you with Bio Toxins for 99.
Goliath: You encounter a Level 7 Guardian!
The Level 7 Guardian hits you with Bio Toxins for 70.

You encounter a Level 7 Mutalisk!
The Level 7 Mutalisk hits you with Glave Wurm for 55.
Goliath: You encounter a Level 7 Mutalisk!
The Level 7 Mutalisk hits you with Glave Wurm for 23.

You encounter a Level 7 Overmind!
The Level 7 Overmind hits you with Overpowering Psychic Attack for 222.
You encounter a Level 7 Overmind!
The Level 7 Overmind hits you with Overpowering Psychic Attack for 200.
(range: 197-204 approx)

-------------------------------

This test was done at around 10:45PM PACIFIC time on May 15th, 2007.

I'm using the Goliath Mech Suite V2 for a while now to test it out.

Will someone post their tests for the adamite armor to confirm TheSource's numbers?

Good luck y'all, and keep fighting!

~NumberTheory

[Added at 05/16/2007 00:55:50 by NumberTheory]
Will someone also please check my numbers?

Whoops, forgot to add the "Goliath" tag to the "200" damage from level 7 Overmind. Just want to remind you all that this 200 was done with the Goliath armor on, NOT the level 3 energy shield. (sorry, my formatting makes it look like it attacked me again with 22 less damage all of a sudden, which is NOT what happened).

[Added at 05/16/2007 01:02:06 by NumberTheory]
Please ignore the comment about things being "strange", for now at least.

Also note that I did not yet include data for the Level 9 overmind (level 7 is in the post) and the level 3 rogue battlecruiser. If anyone finds these out, please post them.

Remember, these are for Lev3 energy shield versus the goliath suite.

Thanks!
Dealer1 said on: 2007-05-15 11:15 pm
3868 Days, 15 Hrs, 7 Min, 45 Sec ago
I don't think many people can help you with your calculations right now considering that the majority of them are just too poor to buy the new stuff. I'm ranked 14th in experience and I still don't have enough money for Goliath Mech Suite V2 after blowing 9.5million on a Flak Cannon.

Anyhow, was noting down numbers after reading what you did. I met two different Level 8 Overminds in succession.

The Level 8 Overmind hits you with Overpowering Psychic Attack for 530.

The Level 8 Overmind hits you with Overpowering Psychic Attack for 260.

The second one seems to be consistent with your data for overminds. But the majority of the Overminds I meet seem to deal dmg in the range of 500+.

Unless the new armours cut dmg by half like what the Lvl 3 energy shield does, there is no way I'm spending more money on an armour that is useless against overminds who deal 530 dmg.

The Source didn't tell me in chat that the new armour does cut down half the damage so I won't be taking Liquid's word for it. I'll only believe what I see for myself in the shops and the description of the new armours does not state "Absorbs 1/2 damage from all attacks" anywhere.

[Added at 05/16/2007 01:16:14 by Dealer1]
I'm currently using Lvl 3 energy shield anyways. Forgot to mention that.

[Added at 05/16/2007 01:32:38 by Dealer1]
Okay, I just figured out why one overmind dealt me 530dmg but the other overmind dealt me only 260dmg.

I was trying to run from the first and I went ahead to attack the second. It appears that if that you get hit while you are trying to run, your armour isn't taken into consideration.

So Lvl 8 Overminds deal about 530-540 in base damage.
TheSource (Admin) said on: 2007-05-15 11:19 pm
3868 Days, 15 Hrs, 3 Min, 36 Sec ago
They do absorb half damage :)
Dealer1 said on: 2007-05-15 11:22 pm
3868 Days, 15 Hrs, 37 Sec ago
Oh okay, that clears it up better!
Mr.Liquid said on: 2007-05-16 04:34 am
3868 Days, 9 Hrs, 48 Min, 25 Sec ago
Why is the new armor taken off my account? I would like it back please I submitted a help ticked.

Username: JAMIE
Bottlecruiser said on: 2007-05-16 07:07 am
3868 Days, 7 Hrs, 15 Min, 15 Sec ago
Will someone please confirm it with level 9 overminds, flak cannon and yamato?

[Added at 05/16/2007 10:38:57 by Bottlecruiser]
Here's some info:

You encounter a Level 3 Rogue Battlecruiser!
The Level 3 Rogue Battlecruiser hits you with Yamato Cannon for 79.
**POWER HIT**
You hit the Level 3 Rogue Battlecruiser with your Flak Cannon for 53040.

Unfortunately only one hit, but that's all there was :P I have the Goliath Mech Suit V2
Bottlecruiser said on: 2007-05-16 07:59 am
3868 Days, 6 Hrs, 23 Min, 35 Sec ago
Ok, we tested it with DrakenRahl.

We both have Flak Cannon. He has the Adamite Vest. I hit him for ~70-80 damage.

When I had energy shield, I was hit for 100+
When I got Goliath I was hit for a bit lower than I hit him (on average).

However, the difference betweem Goliath and Adamite is hardly noticeable. In my opinion it would be a bit more worth it if adamite blocked, say, 60% damage and goliath - 70% or 75%. You would assume to get more of an effect for such great costs (1.5 million and 9 million compared to 10000 for energy shield), like it is with the weapons. Also, it would be nice to have the block percentage in the description. Of course, this is only my opinion and only a preposition so please don't go flaming me for how much my ideas suck and how they are not worth the effort of the admin(s).

[Added at 05/16/2007 10:01:08 by Bottlecruiser]
Oh yes, I forgot to say. I know that the difference between the armors is great when fighting weak monsters. But with the same block percentages, as the monster/opponent damage grows, the difference fades.
Phasers said on: 2007-05-16 09:12 am
3868 Days, 5 Hrs, 10 Min, 53 Sec ago
So, Adamite or Lvl 3 energy?
Bottlecruiser said on: 2007-05-16 09:16 am
3868 Days, 5 Hrs, 6 Min, 25 Sec ago
I have come to a conclusion that by all means Goliath > Adamite > Energy Shield

Whether it's worth the money is a different question though.
Phasers said on: 2007-05-16 09:25 am
3868 Days, 4 Hrs, 57 Min, 57 Sec ago
I have the money... I'm just tired of stasis