Terran Legacy Forum

Hmmm... 56 replies

TheSource (Admin) said on: 2007-10-19 12:28 am
3711 Days, 18 Hrs, 50 Min, 15 Sec ago
I think I'll be reseting TL again, re-working the ranks, probably adding about 5 more.


It will take far more kills to reach SCF

There will be about 10+ new weapons/armor

15 or so new mobs

Tom didnt want it, but I plan on adding a simple clan system (VERY simple)

And I wonder if any of you have any suggestions(Other than changes to the way items are picked up, and also nothing that requires major changes to the code)

Also, I would like your opinion on the idea of TL rounds, with prizes for the winners (Probably around 6 months long, but suggestions on that are also welcome)
NN.RAID said on: 2007-10-19 02:23 pm
3711 Days, 4 Hrs, 56 Min, 0 Sec ago
I think all that is good but no rounds. That'll ruin it completely. Why would you work hard clicking for a reset? Clans should be a group of people. So you have an "official" clan but nothing more then that. Good work, source.
Shaw said on: 2007-10-19 03:00 pm
3711 Days, 4 Hrs, 18 Min, 41 Sec ago
Yes, I think that would be fair TS. Except for the rounds.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-19 03:25 pm
3711 Days, 3 Hrs, 53 Min, 38 Sec ago
I like, and dislike the round idea.. Maybe if there were two different games, the one being reset and the perm one.. Just thinking out loud.
DannyFo (Mod) said on: 2007-10-19 04:16 pm
3711 Days, 3 Hrs, 2 Min, 53 Sec ago
I concur with the others. All ideas were good except the rounds thing. Just would seen rediculous every 6 months going for it again...I dunno though I suppose it could work.
Dondon said on: 2007-10-19 09:10 pm
3710 Days, 22 Hrs, 9 Min, 8 Sec ago
It will take far more kills to reach SCF

- Good. 75k kills is ridiculous. The life also increases faaaar to quickly, and it costs too much to heal. It's not good when the best tactic is to simply bank and die, rather than heal.


There will be about 10+ new weapons/armor

- How about just getting rid of the ones nobody uses, or making them better? Stuff like Hellfire Missile Launcher should actually be a viable weapon, for example.


15 or so new mobs

- As long as they're not more of the BS Overminds.


And I wonder if any of you have any suggestions(Other than changes to the way items are picked up, and also nothing that requires major changes to the code)

- A "buy life until full" button. I made a macro to click my mouse, but it still takes a very long time. (I don't imagine this is hard.)
- Remove the credit cards from higher ranks.
- Make popups for messages. A message history wouldn't be bad, either. (I don't imagine either of these is hard either.)
- A "deposit all" button. (I could do this, even.)


Also, I would like your opinion on the idea of TL rounds, with prizes for the winners (Probably around 6 months long, but suggestions on that are also welcome)

- If you're going to reset every other week, then it makes sense to simply make a contest.
6 months seems too long. A lot of people will get bored of it. 1 month is too short, since that's short enough that someone could reasonably stay interested enough to train non-stop.
I think maybe 8 weeks is good. Perhaps also have prizes for first to SCF, first to $1b, first to 500 MP.
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2007-10-20 12:34 am
3710 Days, 18 Hrs, 44 Min, 39 Sec ago
No rounds. That would be a waste of time, and would almost promote cheating. Other than that, right on! This last update made the game extremely unbalanced in my opinion.
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-20 06:02 am
3710 Days, 13 Hrs, 16 Min, 36 Sec ago
Yeah..definately a buy all life button...

I use Opera and auto refresh, and it takes like 10 minutes doing it once every second and im only a maj. gen.
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2007-10-20 11:41 am
3710 Days, 7 Hrs, 37 Min, 21 Sec ago
Any form of auto-refreshing/macro/botting is not allowed. There were people who clicked and clicked to buy all of their life. (me being one of them)

If a 'buy all' button is not introduced, I do not want to hear about this again.
Tymoney321 said on: 2007-10-20 03:01 pm
3710 Days, 4 Hrs, 17 Min, 15 Sec ago
Like the others, I do not agree that rounds should be implemented into the game.
MethodMan said on: 2007-10-20 07:46 pm
3709 Days, 23 Hrs, 32 Min, 48 Sec ago
when the buy life process is so rediculous that people stop playing the game because of it, i think some flex should be given to the macro-buying life-rule.
Dondon said on: 2007-10-20 10:34 pm
3709 Days, 20 Hrs, 44 Min, 37 Sec ago
WeaponX:
If it's illegal to use a macro or F5 to buy life, I propose it be illegal to take less than 5 seconds to make a kill. Anyone attempting to click within 5 seconds will have to wait 10 seconds before "Until Death" becomes a link again. Hey, some people are on dial up and have the mouse skill of an elephant, so let's level the playing field so we're all on they're level! Oh, it's only okay to do that when it's *you* who's getting the short end of the stick?



Anyway, the difference in life between Deity and SCF is 4242971. You get 260 life per click (at a stupid 7020 credits). That's 16320 clicks. Sixteen thousand, three hundred and twenty clicks! vanilla ice ice baby unbelievable. That's like 20 anti bots.
It also costs 114,560,217 credits.

For 16320 clicks, I could theoretically do 8160 kills.


Do any SCF's actually have full life?

[Added at 10/21/2007 00:35:04 by Dondon]
Yeah, that's right, vanilla ice ice baby. vanilla ice ice baby you too.
Dk999 said on: 2007-10-21 05:31 am
3709 Days, 13 Hrs, 47 Min, 53 Sec ago
Dondon:

Actually, yes I do have full life.
And yes, I took the whole afternoon to click my way through, using a touchpad, watching heroes.
(well, before I promoted from SCF and it screwed up everything - still waiting for it to be fixed)

But thats not the point.
(I reaaaaaaaly would prefer the 'buy all life' option)


suggestion though...
I've made several observations...
Antibot is supposed to be ~800 turns.... which i take to mean ~800 clicks.... however it never quite gets there.
I get about 200 kills, max 250 kills per anti-bot....
thats <600 turns.... so whats up with that?
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2007-10-21 02:45 pm
3709 Days, 4 Hrs, 33 Min, 59 Sec ago
I too had to click for my life, so I'm not too keen on life-cheats. I've turned a blind eye once or twice, only because we have no direct policy on it, and I'm not a TL mod. This is something that will be discussed amongst staff soon enough.
DannyFo (Mod) said on: 2007-10-22 06:54 am
3708 Days, 12 Hrs, 24 Min, 18 Sec ago
I know I told you in person, but just so its written down.

Add in a "forgot password" link so that those of us with horrible memories can keep playing the same account without starting over again and again.
Sl@mbonie said on: 2007-10-22 08:30 am
3708 Days, 10 Hrs, 48 Min, 45 Sec ago
u just reseted tl
WTF i just got to scf and now your gonna reset everything, might as well make tl nations every 30days reset. pointless

people spend house clicking away so we can start all over again
thats stupid
Sl@mbonie said on: 2007-10-22 08:34 am
3708 Days, 10 Hrs, 44 Min, 53 Sec ago
dont reset tl if you do make sure this is the LAST reset cause making over 80k kills takes some time so reseting tl would piss alot of pll off
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-22 10:42 am
3708 Days, 8 Hrs, 36 Min, 35 Sec ago
Ok, using the stuff dondon said, it would take 4.5+ hours to buy complete life if you can buy life each second. Also...20 antibots...And we cant use an auto-refresh? Something that is fairly common among browsers? Im not using a bot, im not hacking the system, im using my web browser to its fullest potential.

If auto-refreshing in TL is cheating, then having clan members disband for you to mass at rise in Nations is cheating.

[Added at 10/22/2007 13:15:39 by GuildaNoob]
I just dont understand how we can have these double standard rules.

Or maybe im just not in the loop, so if its something *I* do, i get yelled at, but if other people do it, its ok.

[Added at 10/22/2007 13:17:28 by GuildaNoob]
I just dont understand how we can have these double standard rules.

Or maybe im just not in the loop, so if its something *I* do, i get yelled at, but if other people do it, its ok.
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2007-10-22 12:14 pm
3708 Days, 7 Hrs, 5 Min, 6 Sec ago
I never said anything about agreeing with people disbanding in Nations for others rises. But I'm not a Nations mod, am I?

[Added at 10/22/2007 14:15:01 by WeaponX]
And from my point of view, those two examples are in no way alike.
MethodMan said on: 2007-10-22 12:39 pm
3708 Days, 6 Hrs, 40 Min, 11 Sec ago
In all seriousness though, the game is dead. Resetting it and adding in new characters and shiznit isn't going to get more people to play, it's going to get the same people to play for a week until they get fed up because they've done it all before. I'm not saying we should let the game die but there's really nothing we can do to keep it afloat. Just leave it be.
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-22 12:39 pm
3708 Days, 6 Hrs, 40 Min, 0 Sec ago
All im doing is refreshing the screen. The game isnt set to stop that.

Im using something in my browser, every browser has it, except for maybe ie, but i dont use ie much, so i dunno.

You can accomplish the same thing with a paperclip.
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2007-10-22 12:42 pm
3708 Days, 6 Hrs, 36 Min, 59 Sec ago
If auto-refreshing in TL is cheating, then having clan members disband for you to mass at rise in Nations is cheating.


My opinion is ditto on Tony's. I don't agree with it, but I'm not a Nations mod and I also don't see the connection between the two. To me this is the NetNexus version of the infamous "Chewbacca" defence. "If wookies live on Endor, you must acquit!"


(This is a reference to the defence used to free O.J. Simpson by his lawyer Johnny Cochrane... "If the glove fits, you must acquit")
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-22 12:47 pm
3708 Days, 6 Hrs, 31 Min, 37 Sec ago
No this is me pointing out a Netnexus double-standard.

Its "ok" to abuse the nations game code, the one which doesnt allow you to attack a clan member.

But

Using something on your web browser to buy life in TL is bad.

Having a member drop, and using an auto-refresh are the same things in theory. Finding ways to get around "rules" without "cheating".

One is acceptable.
One apparently, isnt.

Double standard.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-22 03:41 pm
3708 Days, 3 Hrs, 38 Min, 10 Sec ago
The loop holes! they're everywhere!
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2007-10-22 08:32 pm
3707 Days, 22 Hrs, 46 Min, 55 Sec ago
It doesn't even have anything to do with me being a Nations mod or not, any form of "F5ing" was made illegal here. It's only a matter of time before what you're referring to in Nations is discussed.
Dondon said on: 2007-10-22 09:12 pm
3707 Days, 22 Hrs, 7 Min, 6 Sec ago
Who actually uses F5 anymore? I personally use a macro key on my keyboard which is set to refresh my frames page every 500 ms, which effectively eliminates multiple armor lockers in the same second. The best thing about this is I don't even have to be at the computer; I just have to stop the macro once the antibot appears, then restart it. Of course this is all theoretical and I don't even have the "F5" page on my computer anymore, so I'm just throwing out ideas=). Not that I'd have anything to worry about since there isn't any detection system.



Seriously:
I was right when I said, before the last reset, that the reset would breathe life into TL for a short time, then TL would be dead again, but with the added bonus of "oldbies" not even returning.
Resetting this game is pointless. Let the game stay as it is, and maybe some people will pop in every few months and play for a few hours.
BmXbrigade said on: 2007-10-23 01:27 pm
3707 Days, 5 Hrs, 51 Min, 59 Sec ago
the only kind or round that would be ok is like keeping track of how many kill a person has got in a month or so, but not resetting at the end of the month, just stating who was most active. winner wins 2 weeks of binds or something

and what the hell was really wrong with classic?! i will never play this game again in its current state with rediculous ammounts of life, dieing to overminds every 10 seconds in the Wl, and the rediculous and unnessecary ranks.
DannyFo (Mod) said on: 2007-10-23 05:58 pm
3707 Days, 1 Hr, 21 Min, 3 Sec ago
Definately need a buy all life -.-' just spent like an hour upgrading 1 million HP.

Also change the color of the items so they aren't blue and impossible to read. Maybe a lighter blue? Or something, anything really.
Dondon said on: 2007-10-23 09:10 pm
3706 Days, 22 Hrs, 8 Min, 23 Sec ago
I think you can do that by editing your browser's default colors. I might be wrong, though.
LagunaCid said on: 2007-10-24 06:14 pm
3706 Days, 1 Hr, 4 Min, 44 Sec ago
Suggestion: Reduce ridiculous life gain and damage increase. As Dondon said, that makes healing unviable.
Space-Monkey said on: 2007-10-24 09:03 pm
3705 Days, 22 Hrs, 15 Min, 16 Sec ago
What about an MP-round, just measure mp kills gained for like 30 days, person with the most gets a prize
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-24 09:11 pm
3705 Days, 22 Hrs, 8 Min, 1 Sec ago
lmao.. you mean a tourney? :p
Space-Monkey said on: 2007-10-25 07:35 am
3705 Days, 11 Hrs, 43 Min, 40 Sec ago
basicly
Tymoney321 said on: 2007-10-25 10:49 am
3705 Days, 8 Hrs, 29 Min, 18 Sec ago
Yeah, those huge amounts of life need to be done away with. It would be better to have damage/armors scale up rather than having insane amounts of life.
An additional item or two wouldn't hurt either.
NN.RAID said on: 2007-10-26 03:55 pm
3704 Days, 3 Hrs, 24 Min, 3 Sec ago
This is starting to piss me off. Slam shut the hell up. Just quit the game. Stop complaining that your, > month of training was wasted.
Dondon said on: 2007-10-26 07:35 pm
3703 Days, 23 Hrs, 43 Min, 45 Sec ago
Who is NN.RAID?
Archer said on: 2007-10-26 11:49 pm
3703 Days, 19 Hrs, 29 Min, 43 Sec ago
terran.
TheSource (Admin) said on: 2007-10-30 09:47 am
3700 Days, 9 Hrs, 32 Min, 2 Sec ago
If it were to be reset, it would just be to alleviate any issues related to the improper life/exp gain for the new ranks. Rounds wont be happening.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-30 10:09 am
3700 Days, 9 Hrs, 9 Min, 24 Sec ago
Good, I think the ranks need to be different.. I have no real problem with them now, except that they go from actual military ranks(which I like) to Admiral and Emps and deities and what not.. choose one said and stick with it :p
Dondon said on: 2007-10-30 07:57 pm
3699 Days, 23 Hrs, 21 Min, 26 Sec ago
Admiral is a rank in some branches, like the Navy.


I too think the Prince and above ranks should be renamed to something more realistic.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-30 10:43 pm
3699 Days, 20 Hrs, 35 Min, 28 Sec ago
I knew someone would say that :p ... I don't think it is, but it would be better, imo, if they were marine rankings, because in SC they are marines.

[Added at 10/30/2007 23:44:28 by DrakenRahl]
Uhh, kinda looks like I said I don't think admiral is a rank O.o I meant I don't think they are based of the marine rankings.
Revived said on: 2007-10-31 09:56 am
3699 Days, 9 Hrs, 22 Min, 47 Sec ago
any idea when this reset will take place?
Dondon said on: 2007-10-31 10:23 pm
3698 Days, 20 Hrs, 56 Min, 7 Sec ago
Do it right before Slam gets #1 in exp..hahaha.


Sl@mbonie said on: 2007-11-01 02:23 pm
3698 Days, 4 Hrs, 55 Min, 15 Sec ago
that would make me go on a killing spree(no jokes)
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-11-02 02:05 pm
3697 Days, 5 Hrs, 13 Min, 45 Sec ago
A killing spree in TL.. the MPs would be countless..
Sl@mbonie said on: 2007-11-05 08:51 pm
3693 Days, 22 Hrs, 27 Min, 39 Sec ago
not in mp :)
Elmy said on: 2007-11-08 12:03 am
3691 Days, 19 Hrs, 15 Min, 57 Sec ago
Don't you know, Slambonie makes people's houses disappear in real life.
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2007-11-23 02:05 am
3676 Days, 17 Hrs, 13 Min, 51 Sec ago
I suggest hot keys.

W (Wastelands)
B (Bob's Guns)
A (Attack)
U (Until Death)
R (Run Away)

You get the picture I'm sure....

[Added at 11/23/2007 04:03:11 by WeaponX]
Hot keys would also solve the problem of accidental item loss (Shield Generator, SSG, Rejuv.)
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-11-23 12:35 pm
3676 Days, 6 Hrs, 43 Min, 39 Sec ago
Tony, you can use hotkeys in Tl already :p

I use to use them when I first started playing, like my very first time playing.
Shaw said on: 2007-11-23 06:14 pm
3676 Days, 1 Hr, 4 Min, 41 Sec ago
Draken, I've never seen any hotkeys...
JHF2003 said on: 2007-11-26 06:25 pm
3673 Days, 54 Minutes, 7 Seconds ago
LOL another reset... reset reset reset...

anyway these are my suggestions:
1. inventory storage for all items
2. let the user change his/her weapons/armors at any time
3. more than 1 item like amulets and rings can be used
4. guild system must be in-game. let the player apply for the guild (application fee: xxx,xxx)
Dondon said on: 2007-11-26 10:58 pm
3672 Days, 20 Hrs, 20 Min, 59 Sec ago
Why not just make a "TL for Kidz" variant where you never die and your items never drop?
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2007-11-26 11:06 pm
3672 Days, 20 Hrs, 12 Min, 25 Sec ago
Haha, yeah.. I think the item inventory for TL would be a bit much. The use of multiple items would be cool though.
Viper10488 said on: 2007-11-27 06:47 am
3672 Days, 12 Hrs, 31 Min, 55 Sec ago
i gave up clickinggggg....
Shaw said on: 2007-11-27 07:26 am
3672 Days, 11 Hrs, 53 Min, 3 Sec ago
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[Added at 11/27/2007 08:26:37 by Shaw]
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Elmy said on: 2007-11-27 03:12 pm
3672 Days, 4 Hrs, 6 Min, 49 Sec ago
Random MPs in WL?
Shaw said on: 2007-11-27 08:39 pm
3671 Days, 22 Hrs, 39 Min, 27 Sec ago
Elmy you got it right. I thought it would be a nice addition.