WaR2: New Horizons Forum

Suggestions AND A NEW CONTEST 13 replies

ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2009-04-06 11:32 am
3576 Days, 13 Hrs, 1 Min, 56 Sec ago
Considering that I appear to be the only Builder that still shows up from time to time, drop some suggestions in here and I will consider them.

Additionally, I am holding a new contest. It is currently 11.30am my time on Monday morning. One week from now, people on top of the ladders will receive some customs equipment suited to their character. I may consider making it a "growing weapon", but at the moment the only way that is possible is if I were to alter the stats manually whenever you level up, so I'm thinking I won't be doing that yet.
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-06 05:47 pm
3576 Days, 6 Hrs, 47 Min, 41 Sec ago
oh yes..fnally a builder ask for a response


1.the newest spells at the crypt are super hard to get.we earn like max 600 from master of the hall and maybe 150k drops from lord of the goblin and master of the hall.Still these drops are usually found once every hour or two hours depending on your luck.the top spells are 20 mil to 72 mil...pfff...it's like getting an old scf exp.perhaps you could get us better creeps with better drops so we won't have to grind that hard.i mean look at the number of kills i have ...i've only earned like 1.2mil thru grinding alone?

2.spell choice
i'm currently using summon meteor.1-180 damage i think.there are spells that cost like 300k more than it but do crappy damage,like 85-85,which i will never buy.suppose the damage for summon meteor is really random,so the average damage is 90 for meteor storm.why on earth would i buy a weapon that is 300k-900k more expensive when it's average damage may be lower or only slightly better than summon meteor and powerhits for less?mind you,300k-900k is a really tough grind.

some armours area freaking crappy.especialy when there's a range.consider two diff armours in the woodland hall.one is 61-90 i think,while the other one is something like 67-76(i think)the 61-90 is more expensive even though it covers less if you're unlucky.i rather armours be something like 60-65,or even 61-61,so there is a clear distinction which is better.there is an armur with def 2- 200+,which I'm sure noone will buy for 3 mil.You kidding me?I could die to a rat with that armour.

4. monsters
especially after reaching levels 70 and above,i realised i was grinding the same creatures over and over again.one because their drops ae good,master of the hall and goblin lord.and two,because i have to grind 4 mil to get new armour so i can take on any other better ,creatures.I have to do that with rare and unreliable drops and a monster that gives me a measly 400-600 after like 4-6 clicks.even with te best armour,there are monsters which have 400 damage and above which i can never beat.with such enormous hp that even with that 72 mil spell,you could be lookingat up to 10 +crits just to kill it,supposing you survive the first hit

[Added at 04/06/2009 18:49:02 by Michelangelo]
pardon my spelling.i make lots of errors when typing with laptops.

[Added at 04/06/2009 19:22:43 by Michelangelo]
excluding 900k from drops
DrakenRahl said on: 2009-04-06 05:54 pm
3576 Days, 6 Hrs, 40 Min, 6 Sec ago
People on the top rankings? so not just the highest ranking person?
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-06 06:15 pm
3576 Days, 6 Hrs, 19 Min, 54 Sec ago
what do you by top rankings?top 5?top3?top 10?if you're talking about the top guy,noone will compete because i'm a little far away from the rest

[Added at 04/06/2009 19:15:44 by Michelangelo]

[Added at 04/06/2009 19:45:26 by Michelangelo]
oops the crappy armour i mentioned is 35-250+and not 2.

some spell don't make much sense.like this one.

Spell Name: Forest Wrath
Mana Cost: 4
Spell Cost: 908540
Spell Damage Range: 99 - 130

Compare it to summon meteor.

Spell Name: Summon Meteor
Mana Cost: 2
Spell Cost: 265000
Spell Damage Range: 1 - 185

half the mana cost,which means with 4 mana you could do 2 summon meteors.average damage output would be 180 for two casts of summon meteor as compared to 99-130.spell cost is a third of forest wrath.wow now why would i buy such a spell?
FireStarter said on: 2009-04-06 10:39 pm
3576 Days, 1 Hr, 55 Min, 38 Sec ago
Spell prices are determined by a pricing formula that Shady HR and myself came up with.

As for Frozen Wrath and Summon Meteor... One is a 1-185 spell So you're going to either decently or for 0 and anywhere in between. if you liek taking the chance of not doing alot of dmg or doing some decent dmg a spell like that is for you esp. since it will be cheaper due to that low end dmg possibility. However if you want more consistant dmg which in turn may help you lvl faster because you cut out all those low end hits and hits for 0 then you would go for a spell like Frozen Wrath.

Even if it doesn't round out to have a higher avg dmg than Summon Meteor its still more constant which factors in the higher mana cost.
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-07 01:03 am
3575 Days, 23 Hrs, 31 Min, 32 Sec ago
oh ok..one doubt cleared.i thought it was a equal chance of hitting the high end and low end of summon meteor.that said if the probability of getting low damage is high and the probability of getting high damage is low then i may as well change my spell right now.btw,what is the spell/weapon up for grabs and how much damage does it do?if it's good i could save up on a new spell

[Added at 04/07/2009 02:09:14 by Michelangelo]
i mean the weapon/spell that shady is going to give out at the end of next week.actually i was looking in terms of damage per mana cost.i think wrath does abt 160 damage so for a 4 mana spell so roughly 80 damage is dealt per 2 mana.which makes it not worth it unless the probabilty of getting low damage is really high..like 70-80% which will make it worth it
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-07 01:17 am
3575 Days, 23 Hrs, 17 Min, 9 Sec ago
frankly i still think it's uber hard to get the best spells unless you intend players to do like 500k monster kills before they get the weapon

[Added at 04/07/2009 02:18:18 by Michelangelo]
which will be over a million spells casted?
TheQuickness said on: 2009-04-07 02:58 am
3575 Days, 21 Hrs, 36 Min, 32 Sec ago
Spells have always been over priced ... Because apparently they ignore half of the monsters armor. Ive never seen a noticeable enough difference for what in my mind seems an amazing price difference.

To add a suggestion though, I want my characters to stop being deleted.

Thats what I want the most right now.
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-07 07:06 am
3575 Days, 17 Hrs, 28 Min, 29 Sec ago
it's freaking overpriced.lemme say grinding till now nets me max 3-4 mil or so.that includes the cost of armour,shield,spells and the money i'm currently holding now.getting the amount for that spell is unrealistic because at this level,I don't even have 1/18th of the price of that spell,which frankly is ridiculous.you can agree on a formula,yes,but think of how much time someone needs to spend to get that amount of gold.
FireStarter said on: 2009-04-07 04:02 pm
3575 Days, 8 Hrs, 32 Min, 41 Sec ago
Money isn't hard to obtain if you know what to grind on and what drops to go for.
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-07 05:02 pm
3575 Days, 7 Hrs, 32 Min, 15 Sec ago
i'm grinding the best monsters i can take on.the monsters that give me both drops,money and exp.IT's a hard grind.4 mil to get better armour and another few mil to get a decent spell to farm.
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-07 05:15 pm
3575 Days, 7 Hrs, 19 Min, 22 Sec ago
23000 spells casted and only a few million..which are spent on armour and a half decent spell.
Michelangelo said on: 2009-04-07 06:45 pm
3575 Days, 5 Hrs, 49 Min, 0 Sec ago
heh.found it the mad alchemist gives 2500 exp and 2500 gold.hopefully it drops some valuable stuff and the drop rate isn't too low.

[Added at 04/08/2009 06:42:07 by Michelangelo]
all the people who previously played this gae are either inactive,rarely active,or not here at all.As such i ahve noone to ask about the drops.It's hard for one person to kill each monster 7000 times each just to see what sort of drops it gives.I know the builders do not want to leak information to players so they find out by themselves what sort of drops each monster gives.that works for mmorpgs where there are many people at the top fighting different creatures,allowing information on the creatures to be gathered easily.however for this new reset i seem to be the only one fighting these creatures.It's very hard to get such information with such odds
Jing said on: 2010-09-12 10:57 pm
3052 Days, 1 Hr, 36 Min, 58 Sec ago
Last contest sucked.