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Spamming the Nations News 42 replies

Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2008-01-22 12:52 pm
3616 Days, 6 Hrs, 29 Min, 26 Sec ago
Spamming the Nations news will now result in a warning, there was some confusion on this before, but now if any mod sees it the person in question will receive a warning.
Rick.T said on: 2008-01-22 01:36 pm
3616 Days, 5 Hrs, 45 Min, 8 Sec ago
I just want to ask how you would go about spamming the nations news?


Im guessing my creating multiple clans?
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2008-01-22 01:59 pm
3616 Days, 5 Hrs, 22 Min, 23 Sec ago
Basically creating multiple clans and leaving and rejoining your current clan right in a row, whether in an attempt to cover something up or not.
Sal said on: 2008-01-22 02:01 pm
3616 Days, 5 Hrs, 20 Min, 29 Sec ago
Can't that be a tactic rather than an offence?

I mean, at war, who would want all of their enemies to know what they're doing?
Archer said on: 2008-01-22 03:27 pm
3616 Days, 3 Hrs, 54 Min, 15 Sec ago
If you don't want us clan hopping, then maybe you should add a limit on the number of times you can join a clan per day.
Maybe three times every three days?
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2008-01-22 03:52 pm
3616 Days, 3 Hrs, 28 Min, 44 Sec ago
If I had it my way, it would cost turns to leave/create clans. Too bad I'm not an administrator, huh?

[Added at 01/22/2008 16:53:36 by WeaponX]
Hmm, maybe have a short 2-day period at the beginning of the round free of the turn fee to leave/join clans. Give one freebie per round to create a clan. After that, if you miss the 2 day period to join/leave, 40 turn cost. If you use up your freebie of creating a clan, 60 turn cost for your 2nd clan creation and so on.

This will also prevent clan hopping.
DaisukeNiwa said on: 2008-01-22 04:45 pm
3616 Days, 2 Hrs, 35 Min, 42 Sec ago
I acutally like that idea, Tony...
ChaoticLaw said on: 2008-01-22 06:11 pm
3616 Days, 1 Hr, 9 Min, 49 Sec ago
Sal, there are other ways to take up the news. Why do you think market transactions were taken out?
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2008-01-22 06:30 pm
3616 Days, 51 Minutes, 27 Seconds ago
I did it :)
InuYasha said on: 2008-01-22 08:59 pm
3615 Days, 22 Hrs, 21 Min, 39 Sec ago
*spams the news*
Dondon said on: 2008-01-22 10:32 pm
3615 Days, 20 Hrs, 49 Min, 0 Sec ago
So we can't mass people anymore? That's stupid.

Anyway, it's easy enough to break the news, do what you want to hide, spam with join/leaves, break again, then let people clear it. A spamming warning on the off chance a mod checks the news (since it's not *really* broken) is less of a price to pay than getting caught doing whatever it was you wanted to hide.;)
_ElessaR_ said on: 2008-01-23 12:14 am
3615 Days, 19 Hrs, 7 Min, 26 Sec ago
bah we can still spam teh news by massing ppl like wat dondon said, or by doing countless espionage attacks.
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2008-01-23 12:56 am
3615 Days, 18 Hrs, 24 Min, 42 Sec ago
sorry, maybe I should clarify, you can mass to your heart's content, it's more of the create or join and leave constantly to cover up something
GuildaMage said on: 2008-01-23 07:28 am
3615 Days, 11 Hrs, 53 Min, 30 Sec ago
So if i mass the bejesus out of someone, ill just get 10 players to leave a clan then rejoin. So 10 different players joining a clan one time each, not exactly spamming is it?

Also tony what about players that come in mid round? Should they be punished because they started late?

-Im not trying to knock on your idea, but anytime ive ever had a solution for a problem it gets shot down because it isnt "fair" or some-other such nonsense.
Sal said on: 2008-01-23 07:34 am
3615 Days, 11 Hrs, 46 Min, 57 Sec ago
Well honestly, I saw market news and join/leave clan as tactics to cover up attacks.

Now if we can't do that, I suggest we implement something new to do it as it is necessary.

Say, spend 10 turns to clear the news.

Or maybe even give a useful use to espionnage? Like once you reach a certain amount of espionnage, your attacks do not show up on the news?

One way or another, news hurt anyone who try to mass secretly or hide farms. We used to play without news at all so now that it's there, we need a way to cover our acts.

Comment!
_ElessaR_ said on: 2008-01-23 07:47 am
3615 Days, 11 Hrs, 34 Min, 31 Sec ago
I suggest we have a new espionage attack called "make multiple bogus news". Maybe 10 turns or something for it
Wolfblack said on: 2008-01-23 08:15 am
3615 Days, 11 Hrs, 5 Min, 33 Sec ago
I say we have a stealth attack...cost more turns but you dont know who hit you and it doesnt say it on the news

and a higher readiness cost
Nataku said on: 2008-01-23 01:44 pm
3615 Days, 5 Hrs, 37 Min, 22 Sec ago
i unno i think spamming the news represents controlling the media.

it happens all the time. why do we need to know when celebrities go to jail rather than politicians. even then politicians going to jail is no biggie.

it stops us from seeing other stuff we'll hear about in 10-20 years.
Archer said on: 2008-01-23 03:12 pm
3615 Days, 4 Hrs, 9 Min, 5 Sec ago
The Media today is a joke.
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2008-01-23 05:20 pm
3615 Days, 2 Hrs, 58 Sec ago
I think spamming the news is fair. It is like a bug that everyone can use.

Space-Monkey said on: 2008-01-23 07:58 pm
3614 Days, 23 Hrs, 23 Min, 2 Sec ago
i dont get why anyone should be warned for that, unless they are making dirty clan names, other than that its not really hurting anything.
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2008-01-24 07:18 am
3614 Days, 12 Hrs, 2 Min, 34 Sec ago
This site is like Communist. Never ask the members what they want.


"YOU WILL LISTEN OR GET BANNED"
_ElessaR_ said on: 2008-01-24 07:34 am
3614 Days, 11 Hrs, 47 Min, 27 Sec ago
I want cookies!
WeaponX (Mod) said on: 2008-01-24 08:25 am
3614 Days, 10 Hrs, 56 Min, 30 Sec ago
Jebus people, it's not that hard of a rule to follow. Stop whining.
GuildaMage said on: 2008-01-24 09:10 am
3614 Days, 10 Hrs, 11 Min, 1 Sec ago
Nobody is really whining, covering your tracks in the news was a usefull tactic and now that its been deemed illegal, users are making suggestions and discussing it.
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2008-01-24 12:19 pm
3614 Days, 7 Hrs, 1 Min, 43 Sec ago
I dont see any whining at all.


Stop whining about us whining.
Space-Monkey said on: 2008-01-24 12:20 pm
3614 Days, 7 Hrs, 1 Min, 18 Sec ago
Tony, stop whining about our whining, we are allowed to whine, its in the tou
Wolfblack said on: 2008-01-24 05:11 pm
3614 Days, 2 Hrs, 10 Min, 14 Sec ago
Nuget stop whining to Tony about him whining about us whining hes allowed to whine too!





o.O
Viper10488 said on: 2008-01-24 06:16 pm
3614 Days, 1 Hr, 5 Min, 14 Sec ago
Erm I want to bring up the "Making Alliances" Style of covering up stuff.

What of that say?

What if people are just very... Horrid tech partners and get their alliances canceled daily and get new ones?
Dondon said on: 2008-01-25 12:13 am
3613 Days, 19 Hrs, 7 Min, 34 Sec ago
Best way to cover news is do the 3 turns esp over and over. It only costs 30 turns and it can be done with any account to anyone because there's no tech rules.
Sal said on: 2008-01-25 12:28 am
3613 Days, 18 Hrs, 52 Min, 52 Sec ago
Yea but you have to be sure to miss...if you do successful espionnage, it doesnt appear on the news :S
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2008-01-25 01:00 am
3613 Days, 18 Hrs, 20 Min, 56 Sec ago
alliances is fine Viper, it's legitimate, sometimes you need to overhaul your alliances.

Guys, it's the same reason why market transactions were taken off the news, it's spamming, and it ruins the news system when you spam it joining and leaving alliances.
TotalKaosE said on: 2008-01-25 01:53 am
3613 Days, 17 Hrs, 28 Min, 20 Sec ago
why would anyone want to cover anything up on the news anyways??? all it shows is attacks alliances and that clan has been created or joind...i could maybe see the alliance thing but i still see no point in spaming the news.... i think the warning is a great idiea
_ElessaR_ said on: 2008-01-25 02:40 am
3613 Days, 16 Hrs, 40 Min, 47 Sec ago
Bah, every person was borned to be whiney; its either he whines it out loud or whines in his sleep.
Dondon said on: 2008-01-26 12:20 am
3612 Days, 19 Hrs, 1 Min, 31 Sec ago
Sal, yes it does. It says "someone spied on soandso." I think?

Last time I tried, I esp'ed against the highest tech target (~150 tech gap). I had 0 esp. He had 0. I got a full report, though I'm sure the values were way off. This happened 10/10 times, and it spammed the news 10 times.
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2008-01-26 02:35 am
3612 Days, 16 Hrs, 46 Min, 30 Sec ago
That's a huge waste of turns though, if you really wanna spam off the news with espionage ops, be my guest, I won't warn for that
Sal said on: 2008-01-26 07:46 am
3612 Days, 11 Hrs, 35 Min, 23 Sec ago
That's why we're asking for an espionnage attack that costs turns and resets the news.
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2008-01-26 01:03 pm
3612 Days, 6 Hrs, 17 Min, 34 Sec ago
That's an interesting idea, I hadn't thought of that
Archer said on: 2008-01-26 02:04 pm
3612 Days, 5 Hrs, 17 Min, 19 Sec ago
If you do that, Might as well make it "Non Re-readyness-able"
Aka. 3% readyness. use that esp attack. Readyness is still 3%
Nataku said on: 2008-01-27 11:25 pm
3610 Days, 19 Hrs, 55 Min, 47 Sec ago
while all you hankys whine i know of a tactuic to cover ur tranks . it's caled espionage
Nataku said on: 2008-01-27 11:26 pm
3610 Days, 19 Hrs, 54 Min, 38 Sec ago
bunker bombings show up on the news.
Dondon said on: 2008-01-27 11:27 pm
3610 Days, 19 Hrs, 54 Min, 7 Sec ago
Korgrath, the ones who will waste turns with Esp to spam the news are the ones who are actually hiding something.:P
SilverSurfer said on: 2008-01-28 03:14 am
3610 Days, 16 Hrs, 6 Min, 45 Sec ago
To put it quite simply, I don't believe that we should be able to spam the News. Now, with that being said, I do believe that the way to sabotage the news can be changed, and the info it displays can as well.