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Water 64 replies

Fbg said on: 2007-10-24 04:19 am
4071 Days, 6 Hrs, 6 Min, 56 Sec ago
Go low on it. We're running outttt....
Archer said on: 2007-10-24 04:38 am
4071 Days, 5 Hrs, 47 Min, 58 Sec ago
Are you guys pregnant?
Tommy_V said on: 2007-10-24 05:19 am
4071 Days, 5 Hrs, 6 Min, 39 Sec ago
By that, I think Jing is.
Ilidan said on: 2007-10-24 05:43 am
4071 Days, 4 Hrs, 43 Min, 7 Sec ago
Or Jaren.
Fbg said on: 2007-10-24 12:39 pm
4070 Days, 21 Hrs, 46 Min, 50 Sec ago
No, seriously. The water supply sucks because of the drought. Some places only have a couple of months worth of water left if it stays this way. Lake Lanier is dropping 1.7ft a day because of it.
Sal said on: 2007-10-24 03:26 pm
4070 Days, 19 Hrs, 5 Sec ago
You know when we run out of clean water we're just gonna use the ALREADY INVENTED salted water processing. Keep in mind like 70% of Earth is water and yea...keep on cleaning your driveway with clean water :)
Fbg said on: 2007-10-24 05:14 pm
4070 Days, 17 Hrs, 11 Min, 34 Sec ago
animals have to liveee. sea animals. things are gonna become extinct and the food chain will suck.
PinWizard said on: 2007-10-24 08:21 pm
4070 Days, 14 Hrs, 4 Min, 30 Sec ago
theres tons of oceans aY?
Space-Monkey said on: 2007-10-24 08:54 pm
4070 Days, 13 Hrs, 31 Min, 49 Sec ago
who cares if the animals die
Archer said on: 2007-10-24 09:31 pm
4070 Days, 12 Hrs, 54 Min, 18 Sec ago
I think jess is trying to be cute.
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2007-10-25 12:08 am
4070 Days, 10 Hrs, 17 Min, 49 Sec ago
I heard there was water on Mars... maybe there's oil too? I want to go there
Sal said on: 2007-10-25 03:47 am
4070 Days, 6 Hrs, 38 Min, 32 Sec ago
Jess, the only way to make something dissapear from earth is to throw it into space.

If we process sea water, we're just gonna sweat/piss/spit it out so we're not gonna run out of water -.-
Fbg said on: 2007-10-25 04:01 am
4070 Days, 6 Hrs, 24 Min, 23 Sec ago
Okay whatever. I'm still gonna save water b/c I think the prices are going up.
Sal said on: 2007-10-25 12:19 pm
4069 Days, 22 Hrs, 6 Min, 39 Sec ago
Are you gonna save potatoes because in 1910 a 5 lbs bag was sold 10 cents and now its 5$?

Prices always go up...
PinWizard said on: 2007-10-25 01:57 pm
4069 Days, 20 Hrs, 28 Min, 28 Sec ago
jess would u like some ice for that burn? ay?
VoDkA said on: 2007-10-25 02:50 pm
4069 Days, 19 Hrs, 35 Min, 23 Sec ago
Whatever this thread is a serious discussion or not, I'm on Jess' side here.

All I've read here are mainly stupid answers. You guys must be kidding! I hope you're aware that even if we can transform salted water into potable water with a (expensive) process we mostly already know about, clean water provides habitat for millions of animal species. Think about it... If a decrease of not even half a Celsius degree has such a big impact on Earth, what about no more clean water?

Please, be logical and don't tell me we shouldn't care about clean water quantities and it's importance.

Sincerely, this thread angered me!
Sal said on: 2007-10-25 05:09 pm
4069 Days, 17 Hrs, 16 Min, 17 Sec ago
Clean water is only clean once it reaches our sinks and baths. When we're done making it dirty, we throw it back into rivers, lakes and such. When we start cleaning salted water, we're not gonna send back the used water into the sea -.- It's going to be sent in rivers and lakes. Which basically means it doesnt matter.
VoDkA said on: 2007-10-25 05:43 pm
4069 Days, 16 Hrs, 42 Min, 43 Sec ago
Oh really, you think?

So, basically, you're telling me that, for example and since you also live near from Montreal, someone's actually going to build a big pipe (or some equivalent transportation system) to bring our used water from the city up to the Rivière La Grande in the northen Quebec?

Hope you have some very charitable persons in mind!

If we ever run out of clean water, I can assure a lot is going to change. Your theory could maybe work, but only for the area near from big cities where people consume a lot of water. Remember, everything is a matter of money. Once ecosystems will be destroyed, nobody's going to care about them anymore and they'll be lost forever. You're talking as a business man, but money's not everything (ya really!).

You can't tell me that the possibly near lack of clean water doesn't represent a still unsolved dilemma.
Sal said on: 2007-10-25 08:04 pm
4069 Days, 14 Hrs, 22 Min, 2 Sec ago
Complete lack of clear water is something i'd be VERY surprised to see happen.

Actions will be taken way before we completely run out. Wether we use some water over more years or alot of water over a few years, we're still going to have to take action one day or another and I honestly dont care when.

Btw, since you also live near montreal, you SHOULD know Fleuve St-laurent IS connected to the sea, right?

That said...draining water off the fleuve is just gonna bring sea water to the fleuve. We'd continuously have easy-access water as we already have the systems to process and move the water to houses.

ChaoticLaw said on: 2007-10-25 08:27 pm
4069 Days, 13 Hrs, 58 Min, 56 Sec ago
Granted, I didn't read the whole post, but it looks like Sal has been taking his crazy pills again.
Dondon said on: 2007-10-25 09:41 pm
4069 Days, 12 Hrs, 44 Min, 58 Sec ago
Humans have relatively weak immune systems and bodies compared to most animals. What we can't drink it perfectly health for a lot of species.

Here's our water level:

I'm shocked to see it's still decreasing even though we had tons of rain.
VoDkA said on: 2007-10-25 10:06 pm
4069 Days, 12 Hrs, 19 Min, 47 Sec ago
Fine Sal, let's admit the Fleuve St-Laurent could "survive" that way. What about other lakes and rivers? You know... the ones providing us electricity? Yea, those!

You must be aware that Quebec's economy and energy supplies are based on hydroelectric devices installed mostly in the north of the province. If we ever come across the point of a more than critical reservoir level, how are we going to get our electricity and the money out of it?

But enough talking about Quebec, as we know we're lucky on that point, we have a lot of blue gold. However, elsewhere, the situation is more alarming. Stupid actions such as building an entire city, without any restrictions regarding the clean water consummation, in the middle of a desert, keeping it alive by sulking the last milliliters of water in the Colorado River are leading to a mondial crisis.

So please Sal, PLEASE! Even if the situation in Quebec might not be that dramatic, do not tell everybody on the internet to keep cleaning their driveway and using clean water for whatever else non necessary usage. Spread the word and give smart advices, we're not alone and I'm sure you know people can be dumb when it comes to environmental debates.
Stargazer_doma said on: 2007-10-26 05:04 am
4069 Days, 5 Hrs, 21 Min, 54 Sec ago
* next post in french because of some words i'm not too sure of in english and too lazy to look up*

Sal jespere tu connais la difference entre de l'eau potable et de l'eau non potable. C'est assez facile en fais, de l'eau potable, tu peux la boire sans la purifier. de l'eau potable, desinfecte la autant que tu veux, les chances qu'elle devienne potable est... infiniment petite. Deuxiemement, comme vodka la dit, oui on peux transformer l'eau salée en eau buvable, mais a quel prix? t'as vu le prix des bouteilles d'eau? c'est vraiment ridicule et pourtant, c'Est une compagnie qui ouvre le robinet qui PROVIENT du st-laurent, la fais extra purifier, et ca nous donne un eau "qui a le gout de l'eau pure" mais qui est en fait de leau qui vient du st-laurent. alors si il faut commencer a transformer l'Eau salée, tu peux dire adieu a ton portefeuille. Tant qu'a moi, on est mieux de pas trop niaiser avec malgré tout, parceque les chances que on manque d'eau sont infiniment minime, mais ca va nous couter trop cher pour dire que ca vaut la peine.

si ca vous tente de le traduire amusez vous, mais mon cerveau est encore en mode "exam de chimie" alors... ca me tente pas de traduire...
Space-Monkey said on: 2007-10-26 09:23 am
4069 Days, 1 Hr, 2 Min, 34 Sec ago
earths water can not run out, look at the way the human body works for proof, we take in water, we (just like sal said) sweat and urinate it out, urine and sweat go down drains(and in some cases on the sidewalk) drains take the waste to either a purification plant where it is purified and sent back into the river,lake whatever where you originaly got the water from, or its sent directly back with no purification and is purified naturaly through being evaporated and rained back down.

So why worry about it?
LagunaCid said on: 2007-10-26 12:58 pm
4068 Days, 21 Hrs, 28 Min, 6 Sec ago
When I get home Ill translate your post for everyone, Doma =p
Sal said on: 2007-10-26 04:48 pm
4068 Days, 17 Hrs, 37 Min, 30 Sec ago
Eh I didnt wanna go through that whole 1st year high school ecology course...

Lets just..make a test ok? take a bowl or something you can put water in (with low borders). Put some sand to make mini hills and then drain water in the left side of the bowl.

*extreme sarcasm*

then WOW, the RIGHT side of the bowl's water level will go down as you drain water from the left side! OMFG!

*end sarcasm*

That means no matter how much water we use here, it fills back with water from elsewhere until we're done pissing/sweating the water we used. Condesation also plays a big role in water levels.

I really dont wanna be rude to you vodka cuz I like you, but ANY river/fleuve/ocean wont run out of water. Lakes CAN run out of water but I dont think anyone can make electricity out of a lake. And for a lake to run out you'd have to be unlucky enough for it to SUDDENLY have no rain above it nor any water in the earth nearby for a couple years.

Get my point?
Stormbringer said on: 2007-10-26 06:41 pm
4068 Days, 15 Hrs, 45 Min, 7 Sec ago
Whew! Sal is getting his 'grump' on!

;) Just having you on Sal!
Nataku said on: 2007-10-26 07:00 pm
4068 Days, 15 Hrs, 25 Min, 14 Sec ago
*kisses sal*
Dondon said on: 2007-10-26 07:45 pm
4068 Days, 14 Hrs, 40 Min, 52 Sec ago
Water is totally recyclable and if we filter it enough, even sewage water is 100% healthy. Of course if we let it all run into the ocean, it will be much harder to recover.

However, it is difficult to clean dirty water. Other chemical contaminants much be removed either physically or chemically. These chemicals are expensive and they must be handled safely. This will mean water will one day be more expensive and WILL have to be much better handled.

I think a good way to conserve "healthy" water would be to supply toilets (biggest source of water usage in residential areas) with "locally recycled" water (i.e., from shower drain or sink) before sending it to the treatment plant or runoff (my city, of 300k and the capital of BC, dumps sewage water, untreated, into the Pacific). Even a shower could be supplied with less than potable water.
Sal said on: 2007-10-27 05:24 am
4068 Days, 5 Hrs, 1 Min, 24 Sec ago
eh..I happen to drink some of my shower water :S
Korgrath (Mod) said on: 2007-10-27 03:29 pm
4067 Days, 18 Hrs, 56 Min, 32 Sec ago
that's really weird Sal
Nataku said on: 2007-10-27 05:15 pm
4067 Days, 17 Hrs, 10 Min, 23 Sec ago
methylmercury showers, ouch!
.PHREAKZILLA. said on: 2007-10-27 06:14 pm
4067 Days, 16 Hrs, 11 Min, 56 Sec ago
A rough translation; of Doma's Post.

you know the difference between drinking water and non-potable water. It's quite easy to do, clean water, you can drink without purification. Drinking water, disinfects the extent that you want, the chances that it becomes drinkable ... Infinitesimally small. Secondly, as the vodka said, yes we can turn salt water into drinkable water, but at what price? You see the price of bottled water? It's really ridiculous, and yet 's a company that opens the tap of COME st-laurent, doing extra purifier, and it gives us a water "which has the taste of pure water," but that is water is coming from the st-laurent. If we must begin a transformation of Saline Water, you can say goodbye has your wallet. As long as me, it is best not too niaiser with anyway, because the chances are that water shortages are infinitely small, but it is too expensive couter us to say that it is worthwhile.

If you feel trying to translate enjoy, but my brain is still in the mode of chemistry exam
Rhunyc said on: 2007-10-27 11:31 pm
4067 Days, 10 Hrs, 54 Min, 32 Sec ago
Haha, I don't mean to make you mad or anything Sal, but I have to say... You drink your shower water, yet you clean your driveway with the clean stuff?

:D :P
Cllander said on: 2007-10-28 01:16 am
4067 Days, 9 Hrs, 9 Min, 43 Sec ago
FBG's post was in reference to the drought that the are experiencing in the Central US. Water levels in the lakes are dangerously low since there has been little rain there this summer and people are still using the water.

You know when we run out of clean water we're just gonna use the ALREADY INVENTED salted water processing.

While purifying ocean water has been already invented it is very expensive and would not be viable in North America. Besides, last I looked, Central America is pretty far from the Ocean.

Lets just..make a test ok? take a bowl or something you can put water in (with low borders). Put some sand to make mini hills and then drain water in the left side of the bowl.

Why don't you try a test. Go take some water and pour it on the ground. By your theory, the water should bypass the St. Lawrence River and make it's way from Canada to Central America where the drought is. After all, we are all on the same land mass.

Condesation also plays a big role in water levels.

you are correct, however, unless the atmosphere is saturated, condensation will not occur. Therefore, in regions where the atmosphere is dry (i.e. regions where there has been a drought), you will not get condensation.

eh..I happen to drink some of my shower water :S

I hope you take cold showers. Have you ever seen what settles in the bottom of a hot water tank?

Finally, stop posting. You are just making yourself sound like a typical ignorant Quebecer

[Added at 10/28/2007 02:22:57 by Cllander]
* Finally, stop posting. You are just making yourself sound like a stereotypical ignorant Quebecer
Archer said on: 2007-10-28 02:44 am
4067 Days, 7 Hrs, 42 Min, 8 Sec ago
Oh what did I just step in ..
I drink some of my shower water too...
Because i like to rinse my mouth with warm water during showers.

[Added at 10/28/2007 03:44:46 by Archer]
the first line is "Oh S***"
Dam you filter!
Sal said on: 2007-10-28 07:27 am
4067 Days, 2 Hrs, 58 Min, 36 Sec ago
Nah I only drink it when its really cold, I cant stand drinking warm/hot water.

As for central America, I wont comment as i'd probably get a warning. Let's just say they're not very high up in my heart. Same goes with the rest of USA and while we're here, the rest of the world too.
Nataku said on: 2007-10-28 10:11 am
4067 Days, 15 Minutes, 1 Second ago
you should quit drinking you're shower.

[Added at 10/28/2007 11:16:29 by Nataku]
oh no, e. coli!
LagunaCid said on: 2007-10-28 11:55 am
4066 Days, 22 Hrs, 30 Min, 18 Sec ago
Last time I checked Central America was flanked by water in the west and east.
Oh wait, you mean Central USA?
Nataku said on: 2007-10-28 04:12 pm
4066 Days, 18 Hrs, 13 Min, 27 Sec ago
sal, you's a bumboclap
Cllander said on: 2007-10-28 07:05 pm
4066 Days, 15 Hrs, 20 Min, 19 Sec ago

I did a google image search and this is the only image that showed up:
SilverSurfer said on: 2007-10-28 11:38 pm
4066 Days, 10 Hrs, 47 Min, 55 Sec ago
Then why is it from photobucket?
Cllander said on: 2007-10-29 12:28 am
4066 Days, 9 Hrs, 57 Min, 27 Sec ago
I don't know... Maybe because it was on someones myspace and they are only hosting the image on photobucket. Why not google it yourself?
Fbg said on: 2007-10-29 03:52 pm
4065 Days, 18 Hrs, 33 Min, 19 Sec ago
Thank you to all who understand :)
Archer said on: 2007-10-29 04:16 pm
4065 Days, 18 Hrs, 10 Min, 8 Sec ago
lol Cll
It is the only image that comes up on google search.
Now i got a question...
Who the hell is he?
I remember watching that guy on t.v or something.
Dancing and losing weight i think :P
Years ago tho, ancient history.
Elmy said on: 2007-10-29 04:32 pm
4065 Days, 17 Hrs, 54 Min, 1 Sec ago
I never did like French people. brother of mine s.
Sal said on: 2007-10-29 04:54 pm
4065 Days, 17 Hrs, 31 Min, 13 Sec ago
Hate yourself more, please.
Elmy said on: 2007-10-29 05:03 pm
4065 Days, 17 Hrs, 22 Min, 12 Sec ago
I consider myself no more French then a Mexican who can speak English considers himself English.

Fancy way of saying I don't really hate myself.
Sal said on: 2007-10-29 05:09 pm
4065 Days, 17 Hrs, 16 Min, 11 Sec ago
A Mexican who speaks English is still a Mexican. Just like you are a Quebecor who speaks English. You're still a Quebecor who's first language was French.
Elmy said on: 2007-10-29 05:33 pm
4065 Days, 16 Hrs, 52 Min, 46 Sec ago
Perhaps, it's not possible for me to argue against that logic.

But whether the language I speak was/is French or English, it wouldn't change anything. Opinion doesn't change by language.
Nataku said on: 2007-10-29 05:36 pm
4065 Days, 16 Hrs, 49 Min, 15 Sec ago
lol you silly frenchie.
MethodMan said on: 2007-10-29 06:57 pm
4065 Days, 15 Hrs, 29 Min, 6 Sec ago
As long as we agreed that French people suck, why do we need to continue arguing?
LagunaCid said on: 2007-10-29 07:32 pm
4065 Days, 14 Hrs, 53 Min, 56 Sec ago
Sal, Elmos point is that hes Quebecois not French.
Im Brazilian, not Portuguese. Or Kanadain. <loldontkillme>
Nataku said on: 2007-10-30 01:00 am
4065 Days, 9 Hrs, 26 Min, 4 Sec ago
here here, in the name of nationalism!
i'm canadian and only canadian, not what my papers say :>

[Added at 10/30/2007 02:01:21 by Nataku]
sal it's time you rollout!
Sal said on: 2007-10-30 04:38 pm
4064 Days, 17 Hrs, 47 Min, 10 Sec ago
Nataku, its time you double your IQ. I dont bother argueing with monkeys.
Nataku said on: 2007-11-05 11:52 am
4058 Days, 22 Hrs, 33 Min, 51 Sec ago
i actually just doubled it today thank you very much, now lemme spank you while wearing a leather thong.
Dondon said on: 2007-11-05 08:24 pm
4058 Days, 14 Hrs, 1 Min, 28 Sec ago
InuYasha said on: 2007-11-06 07:45 pm
4057 Days, 14 Hrs, 40 Min, 59 Sec ago
I thought this thread was about Watergurl. I haven't heard from her in ages.
Chelly said on: 2007-11-06 08:18 pm
4057 Days, 14 Hrs, 7 Min, 37 Sec ago
Go borrow some water from Florida, since apparently in 40 years they'll be covered in it.. SAVE THEM!
Dondon said on: 2007-11-06 10:43 pm
4057 Days, 11 Hrs, 42 Min, 37 Sec ago
It will probably boost the American economy, since they're all old people anyway. Maybe it will get states around it too, and the collective IQ of the US will quadruple!
InuYasha said on: 2007-11-07 10:41 am
4056 Days, 23 Hrs, 44 Min, 13 Sec ago
Don't count on it, Dondon. There are too many Christians and people with bipartisan political views for that.
Rhunyc said on: 2007-11-07 07:10 pm
4056 Days, 15 Hrs, 15 Min, 11 Sec ago
Water sounds amazing.

[Added at 11/07/2007 20:11:20 by Victor_Troska]
Digital Sea, ftw.
TinaMiaz said on: 2007-11-08 11:25 am
4055 Days, 23 Hrs, 1 Min, 1 Sec ago
Off topic, eh? I actually read most of the posts here and I have nothing to say. Kind of dissapointing.
Nataku said on: 2007-11-08 12:56 pm
4055 Days, 21 Hrs, 29 Min, 35 Sec ago
actually you just had something too say as a result of the randomness if i may add.


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Rhunyc said on: 2007-11-08 03:30 pm
4055 Days, 18 Hrs, 55 Min, 34 Sec ago
Would you like a candy bar for your efforts, Tina?