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TrueX: To like or to dislike... 56 replies

AK47 said on: 2007-10-11 10:31 pm
3717 Days, 55 Minutes, 30 Seconds ago

ok ive decided to make this thread for 2 purposes.

1) see what NNers think of X
2) use this information to make X better

with that said, i would like anyone/everyone to post 1 thing you like about X and 1 thing you dislike about X. detailed explanations are preferred.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-11 10:49 pm
3717 Days, 37 Minutes, 53 Seconds ago
to like.
Peygan999 said on: 2007-10-12 12:21 am
3716 Days, 23 Hrs, 5 Min, 44 Sec ago
mixed. I hated it before I joined, but now I like it a lot!
X clan is like the America of Nations: It's huge, and sometimes uses its size and obvious power to take advantage of smaller, weaker clans. That's why WARBEAST hates X......pur pwnage is unrivaled, and he dreams of leading such a formidable clan. He envies our collective power!

Love it, hate it, just remember this: Might makes Right, and we're infallible!
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2007-10-12 12:59 am
3716 Days, 22 Hrs, 27 Min, 55 Sec ago
I was a lot like Peygan. Originally I hated X, but my strong belief is "if you can't beat them, join them" and that's exactly what happened.
Jing said on: 2007-10-12 01:49 am
3716 Days, 21 Hrs, 38 Min, 21 Sec ago
I don't like X as a clan, i like the people in it.

I can't see myself joining X anytime soon.

[Added at 10/12/2007 03:49:36 by Jing]
And i would not "Join them if you can't beat them" ^0^
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2007-10-12 04:02 am
3716 Days, 19 Hrs, 25 Min, 17 Sec ago
X is awful. You guys bully people around just because you "Can". Seems like just another massing clan. I bet if Pic was still playing he would be there.


As i see it, i think you guys should get Warbeast to join becuase that is who you act like.
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-12 05:25 am
3716 Days, 18 Hrs, 1 Min, 43 Sec ago
Hmm..what i like about X..well...i like its players on an individual basis, as long as we dont talk about X.

As a collective whole, you guys are "jack-alls".

And "all" is a substituted word. ;)
SPARKSMOKE24 said on: 2007-10-12 05:28 am
3716 Days, 17 Hrs, 58 Min, 48 Sec ago
i think that all the people that dont like x are canadans A get over your selfs and deal with it just your clan is not as strong dosent mean that you are week
_ElessaR_ said on: 2007-10-12 05:54 am
3716 Days, 17 Hrs, 32 Min, 45 Sec ago
I don't really know the people in x. But my first impression of them is as a "very large clan with gay players" which pawns other smaller clans.

Gemz said on: 2007-10-12 06:10 am
3716 Days, 17 Hrs, 16 Min, 48 Sec ago
X will use anything they can to win.


:)

I like that
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-12 06:17 am
3716 Days, 17 Hrs, 9 Min, 52 Sec ago
Sparks...i think most of the people who dont like x are american..i think most of the canadians are either in x, or not really playing..
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2007-10-12 06:22 am
3716 Days, 17 Hrs, 5 Min, 13 Sec ago
Im american
_ElessaR_ said on: 2007-10-12 06:25 am
3716 Days, 17 Hrs, 1 Min, 49 Sec ago
SO its an american-canadian rivalry, interesting...
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-12 06:30 am
3716 Days, 16 Hrs, 56 Min, 58 Sec ago
Not so much, i think X is a huge mix:

Canadians, Russians, Australians, Americans. Who knows what else...
AK47 said on: 2007-10-12 09:37 am
3716 Days, 13 Hrs, 49 Min, 59 Sec ago

ok...this thread wasnt made to flame X! the whole idea is to use this information to make it better.
by being ignorant and flaming the heck outta the clan, youre only contributing to the very problem you have with the clan. with that said, please list 1 thing you LIKE and 1 thing you DISLIKE and why. very simple.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-12 09:46 am
3716 Days, 13 Hrs, 41 Min, 7 Sec ago
I think peygan said it best, X is the US of Nations, too big to hate out loud..

I never hated ill feelings for X, they were my first nations clan, some of the orginal members and SAs, were the first to teach me the game.. so, I can't hate what taught me the game :p
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-12 10:02 am
3716 Days, 13 Hrs, 24 Min, 36 Sec ago
I can hate X all i want though.

Well, i guess you want to know why i think you guys as a clan are "jack-alls". Its pretty easy, you guys having more members and in some cases more talented active members are able to push individual clans around and get your way with massing players.

And then you comment..daily...several times:

lolz omfg x ftw we are pwnz0rz joo!

Its annoying.
Al_capone said on: 2007-10-12 10:25 am
3716 Days, 13 Hrs, 1 Min, 27 Sec ago
We still love you guild.
SilverSurfer said on: 2007-10-12 10:31 am
3716 Days, 12 Hrs, 56 Min, 4 Sec ago
I've been a long time hater of X. For quite a few reasons.

1) For their ever-living cheap play.

2) For their uncanny ability to have such a large number of a mixture of highly annoying people, idiots, and yet some good players who seem to pull them all through.

I view X as more of a misfit with the clans it was created with and therefore bullied other, smaller, weaker clans in the wake of the departure of the great clans so that they could in turn seem "Great" as well.
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-12 10:49 am
3716 Days, 12 Hrs, 38 Min, 14 Sec ago
I've been a long time hater of the United States. For quite a few reasons.

1) For their ever-living cheap play.

2) For their uncanny ability to have such a large number of a mixture of highly annoying people, idiots, and yet some good players who seem to pull them all through.

I view the United States as more of a misfit with the countries it was created with and therefore bullied other, smaller, weaker countries in the wake of the departure of the great countries so that they could in turn seem "Great" as well.

You can't see the similarities here? this is seriously making me laugh alot.

Wolfblack said on: 2007-10-12 12:04 pm
3716 Days, 11 Hrs, 22 Min, 35 Sec ago
i will say this...X is the best clan, its got numbers and some respectable players...but its true you guys do seem to "bully" other players...its like your the evil tyrant of nations. and all the little clan i.e iconz, IC, AC or whatever, are small rebellious groups tryin to "deal" with the tyrants or trying to basically dethrone them.
SaNdYx said on: 2007-10-12 01:27 pm
3716 Days, 10 Hrs, 13 Sec ago
hate it
Izembo said on: 2007-10-12 03:32 pm
3716 Days, 7 Hrs, 54 Min, 36 Sec ago
will always hate what X has been and stood for. nothing can change this.
SPARKSMOKE24 said on: 2007-10-12 03:34 pm
3716 Days, 7 Hrs, 52 Min, 23 Sec ago
i belive that x shows alot of support to there clan members and they back each other up when needed and they also have fun just because you dont like that a clan is stronger then yours dosent mean that they are bullying any one, i bet if you were in x shoes you all would do the same thing basicaly you have to do what you have to do to servive in the game

EAT OR BE EATEN
Peygan999 said on: 2007-10-12 04:49 pm
3716 Days, 6 Hrs, 38 Min, 13 Sec ago
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutly. Such is the case with X. When a person or group of persons have power perceived to be superior, they inevitably abuse that power and exploit the weak. It's no one person's fault, and is not a problem exclusive to X. If Iconz or IC had the numbers X does, they would do the same thing. Thats just nature. o.O

[Added at 10/12/2007 18:50:37 by Peygan999]
I'm in TrueX, and I love it here. However, were I an outsider, I would probobly feel differently
TinaMiaz said on: 2007-10-12 05:14 pm
3716 Days, 6 Hrs, 12 Min, 49 Sec ago
pffft, x.
Rick.T said on: 2007-10-12 06:50 pm
3716 Days, 4 Hrs, 36 Min, 53 Sec ago
Im not to big of a fan of x
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-12 07:29 pm
3716 Days, 3 Hrs, 57 Min, 49 Sec ago
Not speaking for ic, but iconz would not do the same thing. We would win on skill alone, but intimidation tactics.
Entity-Neo said on: 2007-10-12 08:35 pm
3716 Days, 2 Hrs, 51 Min, 52 Sec ago
pfft
we have the players and the numbers, to do what we like, if you dont like it, too bad.

If a country is going to go to war with another, there not going to 'even up the numbers', no we are going to twinkle slap your ass just like we already do to every clan in nations. sosorry. we pwn.thx.
Space-Monkey said on: 2007-10-13 05:26 am
3715 Days, 18 Hrs, 46 Sec ago
Well I cant really name anything I dont lke about X other than how many people hate it for no real reason. Several people say we bully, and we really don't, we do use our size to our advantage and we arent afraid to strike, but why not, we have over 20 members and 90% are excelent players, why not use that to every advantage?

What I like most about X is the general strive for excelence from every member in the clan, as a whole that makes the clan better, its a constant compition for who can do the best, but that compition doesnt take away from the clan as a whole.
Al_capone said on: 2007-10-13 06:36 am
3715 Days, 16 Hrs, 50 Min, 49 Sec ago
Guess you can say that X is a hall monitor that carries a rocket launcher to straighten out the bad kids.
AK47 said on: 2007-10-13 10:08 am
3715 Days, 13 Hrs, 18 Min, 46 Sec ago

i think nuggems said it best when he said we do NOT pick on people. however, if you test the waters, you wont like what you get. when UA came about, what clan was targeted? X! (and we couldnt have done anything since the clan got remade in the same round). how about vikings? we didnt start anything we them yet we ended up fighting them. how about Domination? they ask X for a peaceful round and even a clan alliance and next thing you know, they are massing our guys. with that said, stop with the whole "X bullies people", cause that is far from true. X is a group of loyal members. "one for all, all for one". you hit us, we hit you 10x harder. dont get upset cause you took a worse beating and say we pick on you. poke someone once, poke someone twice...you might get "stop". poke someone 20 times and youre sure to get knocked to the floor. its the same thing with attacking our guys. its all about a loyalty factor.

Space-Monkey said on: 2007-10-13 10:30 am
3715 Days, 12 Hrs, 57 Min, 8 Sec ago
X's main goal is to do well, to try to be the best, but for our size people say we bully, when in the past say 6 rounds did we start a war? infact dont even mention the wars, just name a few incidents where we bullied someone, all we've ever done is protect ourselves.
SilverSurfer said on: 2007-10-13 11:43 am
3715 Days, 11 Hrs, 43 Min, 32 Sec ago
As the thread nears it's end, the summary goes like this: X are Bullies. :D
DrakenRahl said on: 2007-10-13 12:03 pm
3715 Days, 11 Hrs, 23 Min, 59 Sec ago
you know what? everyone who says X are bullies, think about it this way.. Quit complaining about it, and do something. Simple as that..
Sal said on: 2007-10-13 01:51 pm
3715 Days, 9 Hrs, 35 Min, 30 Sec ago
OK OK OK! Once that's said, nobody will be the right to comment because its so true!








































































Nirvana > X

Kthxbye

[Added at 10/13/2007 15:52:23 by Sal]
WILL HAVE THE RIGHT





i hate typos, it screws up jokes :'(
TinaMiaz said on: 2007-10-13 07:34 pm
3715 Days, 3 Hrs, 53 Min, 13 Sec ago
Everyone's been in X or an X look alike at one point :o
Stormbringer said on: 2007-10-13 08:02 pm
3715 Days, 3 Hrs, 24 Min, 41 Sec ago
Tina, you are spot on as all large clans seem to get tagged as "bullies", deserved or not.
TheWhiteDemon said on: 2007-10-13 08:16 pm
3715 Days, 3 Hrs, 10 Min, 49 Sec ago
Nirvana > X
Hi-Liter said on: 2007-10-13 08:29 pm
3715 Days, 2 Hrs, 58 Min, 0 Sec ago
nirvana was only a good clan when sal led it. as soon as he left it in the hands of idiots it became a piece of crap clan and quickly fell apart.
Stormbringer said on: 2007-10-13 08:33 pm
3715 Days, 2 Hrs, 53 Min, 49 Sec ago
Nirvana = where?
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-14 05:30 am
3714 Days, 17 Hrs, 57 Min, 14 Sec ago
Ok..domination asked for a peacefull round and an alliance, and was told no. X members did hit domination members, so they were farms..youll see my point soon.

Last round, x attacked nearly any person dropping 4+ lands the last week of the game, they were hitting people who "farmed". Members of iconz hit members in X who were "farms" inside of X. Essentially, iconz were told, "stop hitting our members or there will be a war." "your members are farms!!!" "yeah, so what, stop hitting them or we war!!"

I think you get my point. X hits farms, then when their clan has farms, they threaten the smaller clans with war. You dont call that bullying?
WARBEAST said on: 2007-10-14 06:00 am
3714 Days, 17 Hrs, 27 Min, 17 Sec ago
see why?


u need to change into SPARTANS for a Round...:)
ShadyKnight (Mod) said on: 2007-10-14 01:32 pm
3714 Days, 9 Hrs, 55 Min, 17 Sec ago
In essence, X is a bully. I don't deny it. However, we have some pretty smart tactics. I don't agree with the "we can hit you but you can't hit us" theory, but I think it's a good idea to use strength to our advantage. This is why I joined in the first place: I didn't feel like fighting against 20 people at once.
SaNdYx said on: 2007-10-14 06:14 pm
3714 Days, 5 Hrs, 12 Min, 42 Sec ago
rolf.. wow nice reply really how many ppls thought like you ? if there was 10 ppls who thought like you hmm X would have 10 players and we couldnt have take them out??? LAWL, LOL, ROFLMAP, ROLFCOPTER, LMAO.
AK47 said on: 2007-10-14 10:03 pm
3714 Days, 1 Hr, 23 Min, 48 Sec ago

uh the purpose of the thread was not about who liked X. i could care less to be honest. it was to see what were X's best qualities and what we could work on. thats all!

ChaoticLaw said on: 2007-10-15 12:38 am
3713 Days, 22 Hrs, 48 Min, 29 Sec ago
I have never been in X or an X look alike.

Love the people in X, but hate the clan. You will never see me in that clan. The attitudes and politics are the main reasons. I'm not going to argue it though.
JEBStuart said on: 2007-10-15 06:02 am
3713 Days, 17 Hrs, 25 Min, 21 Sec ago
CL--that makes 2 of us!

and what a self serving thread this was..sounds like High School girls passing notes in class.." Does he like me, Oh who does he like stuff"'''Grow the F_K up!"
Peygan999 said on: 2007-10-15 07:40 am
3713 Days, 15 Hrs, 46 Min, 58 Sec ago
There's nothing immature about wanting to improve X so that its the best clan it can be! As 90% of the posts in this thread pointed out, lots of people don't like X. Therefore, it makes sense to try to improve it. Not to mention the fact that many members at least LOOKED at other clans for the new round. Obviously it needs work, and AK is just trying to see how much. Hope it goes well, AK! ^_^
GuildaMage said on: 2007-10-15 09:29 am
3713 Days, 13 Hrs, 57 Min, 44 Sec ago
Kinda contradicted yourself ak:

AK47 (Winner) said on: 10/12/07 12:31 am
(3 Days, 10 Hrs, 55 Min, 28 Sec ago)

ok ive decided to make this thread for 2 purposes.

1) see what NNers think of X
2) use this information to make X better

with that said, i would like anyone/everyone to post 1 thing you like about X and 1 thing you dislike about X. detailed explanations are preferred.

AK47 (Winner) said on: 10/15/07 12:03 am
(11 Hrs, 23 Min, 46 Sec ago)

uh the purpose of the thread was not about who liked X. i could care less to be honest. it was to see what were X's best qualities and what we could work on. thats all!


=P
AK47 said on: 2007-10-15 10:10 am
3713 Days, 13 Hrs, 17 Min, 7 Sec ago

no i didnt guilda...cause if you continue with my 1st post you see that i also had..."with that said, i would like anyone/everyone to post 1 thing you like about X and 1 thing you dislike about X. detailed explanations are preferred."

nowhere am i asking about posting how much you hate X. i am asking for reasons of spite or like so i can use this information to better the clan.

obviously people just want this to be another flame thread. thank you to those that actually did answer my question(s).
True_Highwind said on: 2007-10-17 11:14 pm
3711 Days, 13 Minutes, 14 Seconds ago
I'll add my two cents to this thread here...

First of all, I'd like to make a remark to what SPARKSMOKE24 said in his original post. Being Canadian, I find that EXTREMELY offensive! Quite frankly, that is an attitude you'd see from a bigot.

Next point;

I do agree with the notion that Xis essentially the America of (modern day) Nations. They are the most powerful military group within the game today.

As I have not been back for long, I cannot comment on if X has bullied anyone in the past; however, Guilda's example does seem somewhat like bullying.

Next Point;

There has been many clans who have had a much larger membership compared to others before X, and I dare say that they are not the last to hold such an advantage.

The Dark Ravens and The Allias (no, not a spelling error) held almost 90% of the active members back int he closed beta, and neither bullied or used tactics to strong arm the other, smaller clans. (in fact, they were bitter enemies throughout the beta, and the other, smaller clans found themselves allied with one side or the other)

The Dark Ravens were even strong, and had a large member base, after the beta. As did Clan Spyder and my own The Inner Circle, but none of us used out power to flaunt in the face of other clans. Sure, we used diplomacy to integrate other clans, but not bully tactics.

The Inner Circle has had MANY times been one of the larger clans in Nations. And although I have not been leading it for many years, to the best of my knowledge, we have never bullied or used our power to flaunt over others.

And who could forget about Dynasty? The fist clan in Nations to break the 100 member barrier. Can anyone remember them bullying?

THE CLOSEST thing to bullying any of the above mentioned clans (and I include X in this statement) has done that is closed to bully tactics (that I can recall or have seen/heard about) is during the massive alliance period, as I call it. Which was when the three largest clans (X, IC, and DC) were all STRONGLY allied. No one dared attack anyone for any reason for fear of essentially 75-80% of Nations retaliating.

Suggestions;

First in regards to the "you attack a member and we'll hit you harder in response" nonsense. Anyone remember the old term "Random Attacks"? Essentially, a person doesn't attack someone else on purpose, or cause they have a vendetta against them or their affiliated clan, it is just for land!!

My old rule of 1 attack = 1 retaliation is the best methodology to this. You lost 4 land against someone, and only regained 1 in your retaliation? Tuff luck! Massing them till you regain all your lost land, or until you come up ahead, is asking for trouble! Asking for them to call in for help.

Now to X. If you have a problem With people leaving for other clans, it may have nothing to do with the way you are being run, or your leadership at all. Frankly, the people who left may just want a change of scenery! Or, maybe you are doing something that they personally do not agree with, and so leave for the good of the clan or to find somewhere else that does what they think is right.

Over all, the masses will usually hate the strongest; and, they may take their methodology's in the wrong context (ie, calling them bullies). All you can do is live with it, and take their hateful comments as constructive criticism (regardless of how they mean it) or as a compliment!

They hate you cause your so much bigger? Odds are they are envious.

They hate you cause you use your military might over them? They are just sore over their inferiority.

And to the masses who say such things: If you hate X cause they are so much stronger, form a coalition against them! They may have the most members, but, if it was them against everyone else how do you think they'd fare?

END RANT!!
Wolfblack said on: 2007-10-17 11:34 pm
3710 Days, 23 Hrs, 52 Min, 38 Sec ago
pwned o.O
_LoKi_ said on: 2007-10-18 12:18 am
3710 Days, 23 Hrs, 8 Min, 36 Sec ago
Essentially I agree with 99% of what Highwind has said here. I have been here long enough to see these arguments all happen before.I dont care for them now and never did. You can argue untill your blue in the face that X is bad.

Fact of the matter is we win. Thats what we are here for. Those in X that want to go elsewhere are welcome to. X is here to win, if you dont want to do that or help others in X do that then we dont really need you. We did not come back to nations to make the biggest clan. Our attitude made us the biggest clan. Some of the people that argue against us also seem to think that they can argue against the rules as laid out by the GM and the Mods. This is BS, we are given boundrys to play within, We do that to the absolute best of our ability. IF the rules change we will change how we play so we are still playing within the rules. Like it or not those are the facts as I see them, that being the case, as a SA of X that is what we will play to.
_ElessaR_ said on: 2007-10-18 06:01 am
3710 Days, 17 Hrs, 25 Min, 43 Sec ago
This round is getting boring. Why dun we have a world war 3?

X vs the rest of Nations

If they win then they have the right to be bullies, :)
Al_capone said on: 2007-10-18 06:27 am
3710 Days, 17 Hrs, 8 Sec ago
Example of those 3 clans rocking another.....my poor ravens.lol good times
Blackfire1 said on: 2007-10-20 07:54 pm
3708 Days, 3 Hrs, 32 Min, 46 Sec ago
My opinion:

X has been around for ages and is amazing.

Thank you,