Nations Forum

What if... 40 replies

TBrown (Admin) said on: 2010-08-30 07:13 pm
2664 Days, 22 Hrs, 4 Min, 17 Sec ago
Say there was a way to get Nations events written to your Facebook wall... Would you want that? Which events would you like to see?

Blackfire1 said on: 2010-08-30 07:41 pm
2664 Days, 21 Hrs, 36 Min, 8 Sec ago
If there was a box that could have your tech, nation's name, clan, ranking, etc. that would be ideal. If there are to be feeds, nothing too frequent that it clutters up the facebook wall. That just irritates people and leads to the application being deleted or restricting notifications.
Moonshine said on: 2010-08-30 07:48 pm
2664 Days, 21 Hrs, 29 Min, 20 Sec ago
final round ranking.
XSquad said on: 2010-08-30 08:44 pm
2664 Days, 20 Hrs, 33 Min, 53 Sec ago
BROWN DO A PAGE MAKE ONE !! AND DO AS MOON AND BLACKFIRE SAID!! BEST IDEA THERE CAN BE SERIIIIOUUSSSSSLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stoutn said on: 2010-08-30 08:55 pm
2664 Days, 20 Hrs, 22 Min, 47 Sec ago
Someone is excited lol

[Added at 08/30/2010 21:58:07 by Stoutn]
I am thinking:

Post something important, such as an attack/series of attacks

Most defiantly post final rankings, and a congrats to final top players :)

Clan events? Anyone?

Etc...(More ideas as they come to me)
NOOKIE said on: 2010-08-30 09:48 pm
2664 Days, 19 Hrs, 29 Min, 22 Sec ago
It will be more challenging if nations is on FACEBOOK.

We could increase the number of active players and avoiding this game to its end.
NOOKIE said on: 2010-08-30 09:52 pm
2664 Days, 19 Hrs, 25 Min, 24 Sec ago
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/netnexus/219970572176?ref=ts
Winner said on: 2010-08-31 03:17 am
2664 Days, 14 Hrs, 18 Sec ago
agree... bring the game to facebook. =D
Mini695 said on: 2010-08-31 04:59 am
2664 Days, 12 Hrs, 18 Min, 46 Sec ago
Would this encompass all of netnexus?

i.e - TL and other games?
XSquad said on: 2010-08-31 05:40 am
2664 Days, 11 Hrs, 37 Min, 16 Sec ago
Mini bringing nation to facebook will do all the magic by itself people will see there are more then just Nations and personally.. If WE are still playing others will like to play as well this game aint dead!
Stoutn said on: 2010-08-31 10:13 am
2664 Days, 7 Hrs, 4 Min, 17 Sec ago
No official word as of yet, but yes ALL NN games should be playable on Facebook. :)
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-08-31 11:02 am
2664 Days, 6 Hrs, 15 Min, 30 Sec ago
Yeah, Brown bring it up on facebook!!!!
LIKE NOWwW!!!!
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-08-31 02:45 pm
2664 Days, 2 Hrs, 32 Min, 13 Sec ago
Bring nations to iPhone!

But fb is a huge step gratz
Jing said on: 2010-08-31 02:49 pm
2664 Days, 2 Hrs, 28 Min, 10 Sec ago
Sounds like a neat idea.
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-08-31 07:56 pm
2663 Days, 21 Hrs, 21 Min, 25 Sec ago
!st, bring nations to FB.

2nd, create a nations Iphone App.

BOth would be neat.

[Added at 08/31/2010 20:57:47 by _ElessaR_]
If this game gets more players, I'm sure more people will get vip. Myself included.

More players = more money
Loki said on: 2010-08-31 08:08 pm
2663 Days, 21 Hrs, 10 Min, 7 Sec ago
+ 1 for nations on Iphone
Stoutn said on: 2010-08-31 09:28 pm
2663 Days, 19 Hrs, 49 Min, 33 Sec ago
The Iphone app would be another good idea :)
PhreakZilla said on: 2010-08-31 09:32 pm
2663 Days, 19 Hrs, 46 Min, 6 Sec ago
If you go for an Iphone App,
Please Please, Do Android as well.
Sal said on: 2010-09-04 07:15 pm
2659 Days, 22 Hrs, 2 Min, 22 Sec ago
+1 for nations/fb thingie. Whatever gets players might bring me back.
PhreakZilla said on: 2010-09-05 03:44 pm
2659 Days, 1 Hr, 33 Min, 52 Sec ago
Are you doing a full application?
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If so could you do,
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Full Nations
Site & Application updates
Site & Application Connections
--Where players here can connect all their information to facebook through the application.
--- Ex: Homepages, NN Accounts, NN Points.

I'll edit more if i think of more ideas.
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-05 04:34 pm
2659 Days, 43 Minutes, 36 Seconds ago
Notice he didn't come back? To update...
TBrown (Admin) said on: 2010-09-06 08:44 am
2658 Days, 8 Hrs, 33 Min, 9 Sec ago
There is something in the works... though I don't want to reveal the specifics until it's ready.
Stoutn said on: 2010-09-06 11:11 am
2658 Days, 6 Hrs, 6 Min, 45 Sec ago
Tom beat me to it lol But anyway... What he said ^^
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-06 02:45 pm
2658 Days, 2 Hrs, 32 Min, 38 Sec ago
Oh another thing "in the works" won't say what it is or a release date or even an unveil date.

Bad business model.
How bout ta?
The other "yet to be released" games?
The existing problems within existing games?
How chat doesn't work on the iPhone?

My point is you guys promise alot but NEVER deliver.
How about you finish something unveil on the 5th of the month and have the release date on the 12th. That way we can start seeing you people actually care and are good for your word.

Personally facebook/iPhone is a good idea, but have it all set up to go before chatting us up. You shouldn't be asking us if it's a good idea etc, you SHOULD know. Play a round of your own game figure out what pertinet info should be displayed then develope it, then tell us and then release it.

Right now all I see is a businness with apathetic management and owners, who are unwilling to do what needs to be done to make this company work because "it's to hard" or "to expensive" or any other number of excuses they can come up with. The saddest thing is, online games can and do make good money, but you guys can't work it.
Stoutn said on: 2010-09-06 04:11 pm
2658 Days, 1 Hr, 6 Min, 15 Sec ago
Leroy, relax. :P

As per your statement, it is in the works, meaning its still being put together, but I have seen with my own eyes that something IS being done.

Maybe this is the beginning of some changes finally, and yea I see that NN's track record on things is a bit, saddening, but give some credit where credit is due

I will try and keep everyone posted when possible
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-06 07:28 pm
2657 Days, 21 Hrs, 50 Min, 6 Sec ago
Lol Nate

not ticked, just simply posting things. I simply looked at NN as if I'd want to invest in it and I found it very wanting.

So I simply pointed it out for no reason :)
Stoutn said on: 2010-09-06 07:32 pm
2657 Days, 21 Hrs, 45 Min, 46 Sec ago
Yea, I remember this convo you had once before :)
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-06 08:05 pm
2657 Days, 21 Hrs, 12 Min, 14 Sec ago
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

I'm more a fundamental analysis investor, but I'm trying to adapt in more managerial analyst, because fundamentals can be wrong when managers have drive.

So NN has a downward sales trend from what I can see and management isn't agressively creating new products or fixing existing etc etc etc

so I posted cause I was teh bored :P make sense?
Blackfire1 said on: 2010-09-06 09:12 pm
2657 Days, 20 Hrs, 5 Min, 42 Sec ago
Question is...what is the opportunity cost of investing in Netnexus when there are more profitable and efficient time distributions to be had.

Not quite business, but economics answers that question. :)
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-06 10:30 pm
2657 Days, 18 Hrs, 47 Min, 58 Sec ago
Opportunity cost nice statement ....

But what's the cost? Is this even a corporation?

We need a cost maybe even a ipo to find a pe etc
opportunity is always infinite, especially with the Internet. No real overhead compared to some others. Look at farmville, wow etc etc etc

or how about fb or google etc etc

change business paradigms, what they have now doesn't otherwise they would have growth. Maybe instead of porting Nations to FB they could start with advertising on it. Small steps lead to big ones. Anyone want to hear more of my ramblings? Lol
Blackfire1 said on: 2010-09-06 10:50 pm
2657 Days, 18 Hrs, 27 Min, 21 Sec ago
Ah. Limitless resources. If only, if only.

Malthusian economics teaches us that at least one resource will always be limited. Time, in this case, is limited.

As to where PPF falls related to a corporation, I don't think that applies since we're dealing with aggregate individuals - and finite amounts of them.

While it would be nice to think internet has no overhead cost, remember that opportunity cost has nothing to do with the decision made - it's the cost of the next best opportunity foregone.

[Added at 09/06/2010 23:52:45 by Blackfire1]
As for small advertisements leading to traffic and justifying big pushes like Facebook...everything I've read on the subject disagrees. See "The Innovator's Dilemma" "The Tipping Point" or "Freakonomics".
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-06 11:00 pm
2657 Days, 18 Hrs, 17 Min, 29 Sec ago
Black I have no need or want to debate theories with you mate. But time isn't finite the company has no life expectancy, I.e could die tomorrow or go on to survive for a few hundred years, hire more people etc etc.

All I'm saying is with people with drive in control, this could be taken to be worth a few hundred million or a few billion even, re:google or fb. From an investing side if this goes public and it's initial offering makes it worth 100k and it goes on to be worth 70million any investment I do or do not make will be worth it... But unless engines start revving around here it will probably fall flat.

Now if you wish to talk about more pertinet info, instead of debating theories I'll oblige. My investing paradigm works very well for me, but I'm always improving.
XSquad said on: 2010-09-07 05:07 pm
2657 Days, 10 Minutes, 54 Seconds ago
The problem here.. And I want to make myself clear is.. This thread is not related at ALL about things that might of got promised or told it would be done or anything it's about making a FACEBOOK page so that we might have chances to get NEW blood around here. Whit the biggest internet community that facebook represents I do believe it could change something.

Having more players might make it WORTHFULL to make the changes desired since I dont know when .

[Added at 09/07/2010 18:08:47 by XSquad]
If you guys want to argue about things that concern whatever except this thread well do one about it.


ty.
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-07 08:00 pm
2656 Days, 21 Hrs, 17 Min, 55 Sec ago
Mat, black and I aren't arguing were just bs'ing :)

but seriously take NN public offer 500,000 share, see what gets bought. Then they can use monies gained from share offering to advance NN. Once nn gets a positive growing balance sheet the company can start buying back shares or have private parties buy up more I.e admins, to increase profit.

Ways to increase traffic aggressive advertising google, fb and other identical gaming and non indentical gaming sites.

Use monies gained from the IPO to fix nations, develope a FAQ, get all the other "old" games back online, take NN and ALL it's game to the smartphones mainly android and iPhone, release TA and also implement a better social networking side to NN as in inter game clans. Optimize our personal home pages or remove them and have something simpler. Create an image for NN that doesn't alienate it's existing membership, have a VIP lounge (get to see what's coming out next, contests etc).

Then NN will have to hire staff and buy a place or lease a place to set up servers (lease ideally), and then it's golden.
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-09-07 10:57 pm
2656 Days, 18 Hrs, 20 Min, 16 Sec ago
Leroy, that would never happen with NN..
Mini695 said on: 2010-09-08 07:57 am
2656 Days, 9 Hrs, 20 Min, 29 Sec ago
I think what SL is saying is great... puch to be big and dont stop until you are. the problem is in the games.... Nations is a great game, but it is all stratigy and no graphics. People want something that looks like a million dollars before they will invest, and this would be changes to some games or adding new ones. Changing the site, and heck yes making the VIP actually a VIP. I pay $8/month and get to sell things on the market and have acces to better weps on TL.

on and have VIP behind my name.

I think this site can go places, it just needs a pick me up.

anyway...


Yes please please put this on FB and Iphone.

Maybe even TL. and others...

ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-08 08:51 am
2656 Days, 8 Hrs, 26 Min, 20 Sec ago
Alot of people invest in things that are up and coming.

If NN developes a good plan and works the plan, it will go places. Terra Arcadia or whatever it's name was, was supposed to have graphics correct?

So basically the IPO is to get that game out and do tidy up work, if NN keeps building quarterly sales by 5-10% it will attract alot of investments. It will probably have a big jump after a revamp, then they just need to keep growing. Have Admins centralized into one area so they all work together and are accountable too. We have what four admins and four mods? Imagine if the admins all had to work 40hrs/per week and mods had to help develope faq's, report bugs and be readily available to help new players.

I would personally love to see NN go public, it would open it up to me to move monies into. There are some cons to going public but are easily dealt with. NN needs the cash injection, they are scared of loans and even more scared of more partners in a private NN. So take it public and create a voting bloc so they maintain control, example existing NN members all throw in "x" amount of dollars to buy up a big bloc, then we or they or whoever can maintain control.

Nothing easy is worth doing, if it's worth it, it will be hard.
_ElessaR_ said on: 2010-09-08 01:26 pm
2656 Days, 3 Hrs, 51 Min, 26 Sec ago
Look at the top 50 rankings. We barely have 30 active players. For an online game with billions of people having access to the net, that is just absurd..
ShadowLord69 said on: 2010-09-08 02:55 pm
2656 Days, 2 Hrs, 22 Min, 57 Sec ago
They have options...

Issue shares directly to people and stay private

reverse merger to go public quick to raise funds

go get listed on the pink sheets directly 50k costs

do a spinoff via another public company

there are alot of ways to raise capital to turn this place around. How much do they spend on marketing a month? 50-300$??? Now imagine if they could spend 3,000$ a month plus have their work paid for, I.e hourly, salary or piece work...

Minnimun amount of shareholders needed to go public is 35, offer 35 people shares with a minnimun buy in of a thousand dollars will achieve alot. So they use that cash create a positive cash flow and then go public in a few years, to raise more cash for expansion and acquisitions.

So yea... I know I'm beating my head against a wall, but still... It's been done before.
Stoutn said on: 2010-09-09 10:46 pm
2654 Days, 18 Hrs, 31 Min, 12 Sec ago
Anyway, what Tom was saying, I believe that you shouldn't see events not relevant to your own nation. Maybe Attacks on Techies and/or clan mates, but to much and its spamming and users may delete :/
Jing said on: 2010-09-12 10:28 pm
2651 Days, 18 Hrs, 49 Min, 19 Sec ago
Make the box small, but with the option of widening it to see everything. That'll solve that.